El Kami Ghazi Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, LakotaDakota said: Haven't cared enough to update it with this seasons but yeah lets forget about this year as it doesn't fit in with your agenda... it also looks like you care a lot about these discussions tbh ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 stats schmats. I just find the team more entertaining to watch when he is playing. and I have more confidence in someone actually doing something creative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, El Kami Ghazi said: yeah lets forget about this year as it doesn't fit in with your agenda... it also looks like you care a lot about these discussions tbh ! It's perfectly true, i really couldn't give a shit. He is massively, massively overrated and not even fit enough to start half the games we play. But since you have asked i i have a spare 5 minutes if you include this season we still have more points per game and a better win percentage when he isn't involved at all compared to when he starts. Started 60 W24 D19 L17 PPG 1.51 (40% win rate) Played full match or came on as sub 79 W30 D24 L25 PPG 1.44 (38% win rate) Not played at all 47 W20 D16 L11 PPG 1.61 (42.5% win rate) Still the same, The more he plays the lower our win % and points per game Edited February 27, 2019 by LakotaDakota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenzo Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, El Kami Ghazi said: Have you been living under a rock mate ? Isn’t he there anymore then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted February 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2019 I'm just glad that Jack is under no major pressure coming back into the side.............. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: stats schmats. I just find the team more entertaining to watch when he is playing. and I have more confidence in someone actually doing something creative Pretty much this, probably the most exciting player we have had since Young But just like Smith, as he is a Villa lad its easy to have a go at him. Calling him overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I'm just glad that Jack is under no major pressure coming back into the side.............. been like it for years, we made him the face of one the worst villa teams in living memory, the weight our marketing team put on his shoulders is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Overrated? People are seriously doubting what he means to this team? Unbelievable. Edited February 27, 2019 by Jay.P.A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Ronaldo has been sold, nothing they can do about that, he is no longer their player. If they relied on him that much they shouldn't have sold him. You can't compare an injured/suspended player to one that is no longer there, Especially when they won or drew 82% of the games he missed last year. Messi has missed 13 games in 2 years, they won 8 drew 2 lost 3. Do you think anyone cares that their threat up front "was quite bad" ? You don't get points for playing nicer football, The result is all that matters Considering that you're the 'stats with no context' guy of this forum, it's quite surprising that your take on 'Aston Villa have won just 2 of 13 games without Jack Grealish' is not that Grealish is very important to Villa. Actually it's not, but still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Kami Ghazi Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, Vincenzo said: Isn’t he there anymore then? No mate, whereabouts is your rock located ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: been like it for years, we made him the face of one the worst villa teams in living memory, the weight our marketing team put on his shoulders is insane The Instagram announcement of his return from injury was just a tad over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 The best player in the Championship returning back from a long injury is always going to make news. Not only that, it changes other team's tactics when playing us. Not only that, it means our other midfield players will have move time on the ball Not only that, it increases our set-play chances of scoring because of how many free kicks he wins in dangerous areas Not only that, he provides an extra goal threat because of his ability to find players in the final third. Not only that, he alleviates pressure from our defence because of his ability to hold onto the ball. Overrated? GTFOH. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jay.P.A said: The best player in the Championship returning back from a long injury is always going to make news. Not only that, it changes other team's tactics when playing us. Not only that, it means our other midfield players will have move time on the ball Not only that, it increases our set-play chances of scoring because of how many free kicks he wins in dangerous areas Not only that, he provides an extra goal threat because of his ability to find players in the final third. Not only that, he alleviates pressure from our defence because of his ability to hold onto the ball. Overrated? GTFOH. I refuse to believe that this many people are struggling with the age old sporting concept of 'team struggles without star player', which happens in every sport at every level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Considering that you're the 'stats with no context' guy of this forum, it's quite surprising that your take on 'Aston Villa have won just 2 of 13 games without Jack Grealish' is not that Grealish is very important to Villa. Actually it's not, but still. Yeah, Results from every single game is clearly "stats without context" 2 wins in 13 is more to do with the clown in charge than anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Considering that you're the 'stats with no context' guy of this forum, it's quite surprising that your take on 'Aston Villa have won just 2 of 13 games without Jack Grealish' is not that Grealish is very important to Villa. Actually it's not, but still. we only won 8 of 21 with him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: we only won 8 of 21 with him.... That's still more than double the rate of when we were without him? Just looking at Smith's tenure, that's: 5 wins out of 9 with Grealish 2 wins out of 13 without Grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Keyblade said: That's still more than double the rate of when we were without him? Just looking at Smith's tenure, that's: 5 wins out of 9 with Grealish 2 wins out of 13 without Grealish Why just look at Smiths? do the games he was shit in at the start of the season not count anymore? For someone who whines about stats being out of context you are being rather selective there... Edited February 27, 2019 by LakotaDakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenzo Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, El Kami Ghazi said: No mate, whereabouts is your rock located ? 3rd one from the sun mate Edited February 27, 2019 by Vincenzo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Why just look at Smiths? do the games he was shit in at the start of the season not count anymore? For someone who whines about stats being out of context you are being rather selective there... Uh I'm not, I literally said how 8 wins in 21 is twice the win rate of 2 wins in 13. It's more relevant to look at Smith's reign because all the games he missed have been under Smith, and he's much more important in Smith's style...aka more context. But fine, leave it all out. The raw numbers are 38% win rate with Grealish vs 15% without. Interested to see your take on that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: It's perfectly true, i really couldn't give a shit. He is massively, massively overrated and not even fit enough to start half the games we play. But since you have asked i i have a spare 5 minutes if you include this season we still have more points per game and a better win percentage when he isn't involved at all compared to when he starts. Started 60 W24 D19 L17 PPG 1.51 (40% win rate) Played full match or came on as sub 79 W30 D24 L25 PPG 1.44 (38% win rate) Not played at all 47 W20 D16 L11 PPG 1.61 (42.5% win rate) Still the same, The more he plays the lower our win % and points per game He was crap the first season, it wasn't until he returned from injury last year that we saw him play brilliant game after game. You'd have to be a fool or someone who hates Grealish to try and argue that since that point he hasn't been an important part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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