Popular Post UpTheVilla26 Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2023 So do you live by that same principle in every aspect of your life. That basically, given enough money, it can buy your affection? If someone knocked on your door and said 'here is £120mill you have to leave your wife and kids' I guess you'd be off then as well. I grew up dreaming of playing for Villa. If I was ever in a position that I had the talent to do so, that's all I'd want to do. Stuff the money, modern day footballers earn more than enough to be set up for life even playing at a lower level than the Prem. Calling people 'nuts' for not having your same viewpoint is a bit pathetic to be honest. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AV82 Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, UpTheVilla26 said: So do you live by that same principle in every aspect of your life. That basically, given enough money, it can buy your affection? If someone knocked on your door and said 'here is £120mill you have to leave your wife and kids' I guess you'd be off then as well. I grew up dreaming of playing for Villa. If I was ever in a position that I had the talent to do so, that's all I'd want to do. Stuff the money, modern day footballers earn more than enough to be set up for life even playing at a lower level than the Prem. Calling people 'nuts' for not having your same viewpoint is a bit pathetic to be honest. For me it's very difficult to have an opinion on a footballer's choices when I haven't lived in their shoes. Everything goes stale. Novelty wears off. The thought of playing for Villa, in my mind, raises the hairs on the back of my neck but it isn't inconceivable to think that, after nearly 200 appearances, I might then want something else. Something more? Imagine being blessed with a talent that very few have and then spending it toiling away fighting for 8th-17th place finishes, as we were at the time of Grealishs departure. Now let's not forget the guy didn't leave to play for Manchester United and challenge for 2nd or 3rd in the Premier League. He joined one of the greatest teams ever assembled under arguably the best manager to have ever lived and in 2 years has already won the Premier League twice, the FA Cup and the fabled Champions League. Opportunities like that are rare, who can blame him, really? It's a **** game at the end of the day. You don't have to have his poster on your wall and you sure as shit don't have to like him, but I just wish people would let him get on with his life without having this argument over and over again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 My argument isn't about him leaving and winning things. His ambition was obviously to do that but I don't think as a Villa fan, I'd ever find it stale, walking out onto that pitch in front of 42,000 who idolise you. My issue is with people trying to say that I'm mental if I'd not change my loyalties for a load of money. Some of my best memories in 40 years have been spent at Villa Park. With my Dad, my kids, my wife, my friends. I'd not swap that for any amount of money but if others would, that's their perogative. Anyway, this could be debated for days, weeks and months and we'd all still hold our own personal views on it all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, Steero113 said: £120,000,000. Sorry, absolute bullshit. That sets you and your entire extended family up for 5 generations. Security, freedom, choice, certainty. Your totally and utterly barking nuts if you would turn that down over principle. It's not even a principle over something important, but some game that other blokes are playing and you're just spectating. It's bonkers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, UpTheVilla26 said: So do you live by that same principle in every aspect of your life. That basically, given enough money, it can buy your affection? If someone knocked on your door and said 'here is £120mill you have to leave your wife and kids' I guess you'd be off then as well. I grew up dreaming of playing for Villa. If I was ever in a position that I had the talent to do so, that's all I'd want to do. Stuff the money, modern day footballers earn more than enough to be set up for life even playing at a lower level than the Prem. Calling people 'nuts' for not having your same viewpoint is a bit pathetic to be honest. I would. I would 'leave' them for a day and return the next day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I can understand why he left, money, fame, success, more money etc...many would do the same. Don't have to like him for it though, i'm a Villa fan and that is where my main focus and interest lies. Watching the game though was a little boring one could argue he's a better player and understanding tactics, systems etc yet he didn't take anyone on, dribble past a player or even get up to top speed running with the ball. Did he even have a shot? From an entertainment perspective this is what most people want to see not a boring and corrupt well-oiled machine that bullies the opposition into submission. This is my biggest gripe with it all. He's such a unique player, other fans watched Villa because of how good he was. When England played he was trending on Twitter to get him on the pitch every time. I really don't understand why City paid 100m for him given what they have turned him into. I honestly think if he went to Utd or Liverpool he'd have been allowed to play in a similar fashion to how he did here and he could have been up there for Ballon D'or conversations. I'm sure he's happy with winning things but he's lost his footballing identity IMO. Edited June 12, 2023 by AndyM3000 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, UpTheVilla26 said: My argument isn't about him leaving and winning things. His ambition was obviously to do that but I don't think as a Villa fan, I'd ever find it stale, walking out onto that pitch in front of 42,000 who idolise you. My issue is with people trying to say that I'm mental if I'd not change my loyalties for a load of money. Some of my best memories in 40 years have been spent at Villa Park. With my Dad, my kids, my wife, my friends. I'd not swap that for any amount of money but if others would, that's their perogative. Anyway, this could be debated for days, weeks and months and we'd all still hold our own personal views on it all. Beautifully put and agree, 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Steero113 said: £120,000,000. Sorry, absolute bullshit. That sets you and your entire extended family up for 5 generations. Security, freedom, choice, certainty. Your totally and utterly barking nuts if you would turn that down over principle. He would’ve earned 80 million here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) Probably best all the Jack fans leave this thread be, so those of us that dislike him can bitch and moan in peace. By the way, I don’t hate him for leaving. Fair play if you wanna play on the big stage, win every trophy and earn a **** ton of money whilst doing it. But don’t sign a five year contract, promise to stay at the club because you believe in the project and then put a snakey secret release clause in it and **** off a year later. That’s what I don’t appreciate. Oh and diving against us to get a penalty for City. Don’t appreciate that either. But that’s just me. Edited June 12, 2023 by CLARETANDBLUEFOXY 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Two observations: 1) jack never has a good game in a final. 2) jack was lambasted as an idiot, a moron, a bad boy etc for his drinking antics while at villa, yet now, being off his face at every opportunity for city and it's loveable jack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Two observations: 1) jack never has a good game in a final. 2) jack was lambasted as an idiot, a moron, a bad boy etc for his drinking antics while at villa, yet now, being off his face at every opportunity for city and it's loveable jack. On the second point, he's doing it after the season has ended and it doesn't affect his performances during the season. He became much more professional following his freak kidney injury in 2017/18. I also seem to remember us loving his drinking antics after the Playoff final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Keyblade said: On the second point, he's doing it after the season has ended and it doesn't affect his performances during the season. He became much more professional following his freak kidney injury in 2017/18. I also seem to remember us loving his drinking antics after the Playoff final. I think he meant more the media and opposition fans perception. He was always painted as a bit of an immature clown when he did things here and that would never fulfil his potential while he was playing out of his skin. Now its all a bit of a laugh as he is at City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Keyblade said: On the second point, he's doing it after the season has ended and it doesn't affect his performances during the season. He became much more professional following his freak kidney injury in 2017/18. I also seem to remember us loving his drinking antics after the Playoff final. Actually, he was in the Chadwick Arms near Rugeley with Kyle Walker and Scott Carson the day after the FA Cup Final completely off his face, so the season wasn't over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Third observation: All his mystery injuries that ruled him out for 3 months of the season have mysteriously vanished without returning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 There’s some hilarious Grealish content on Twitter at the moment to be fair. Hard to dislike him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, choffer said: Looks nothing like Kate Winslet. Grealish out. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 8 hours ago, UpTheVilla26 said: So do you live by that same principle in every aspect of your life. That basically, given enough money, it can buy your affection? If someone knocked on your door and said 'here is £120mill you have to leave your wife and kids' I guess you'd be off then as well. I grew up dreaming of playing for Villa. If I was ever in a position that I had the talent to do so, that's all I'd want to do. Stuff the money, modern day footballers earn more than enough to be set up for life even playing at a lower level than the Prem. Calling people 'nuts' for not having your same viewpoint is a bit pathetic to be honest. Is this purely hypothetical or can you sign me up too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, GingerCollins29 said: Third observation: All his mystery injuries that ruled him out for 3 months of the season have mysteriously vanished without returning Its no conspiracy, he's just being managed. In 19/20 he played 3550mins for us, 41 Apps: 36 Prem and 5 League Cup Games. This season he played less minutes (3448), in 9 more appearances (50). His last season with us was disrupted by injury, but he played 2,275 minutes in 27 appearances (26L, 1C) Compared to his first City season, he made the same League Appearances (26), playing 270 minutes fewer. His additional minutes that season coming from their longer cup runs. I'd suggest less of his minutes are 'active' for him at City too, so less pressure on his shins minute per minute - though have no data to back that up. I'm sure he'll have a similar injury at some point but as well as winning trophies, moving to city may prolong his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 This past season, was he a better player at City than during his pomp at Aston Villa? I feel like he was a better player with Villa, his performances were almost always man of the match n single handedly dragged the team. Had Pep really got the best out of him? What he has done is get him playing good football on the left but he is no way as influential as he was at Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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