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Ah, it's usually about now we start thinking "this is a strange pitch, the pink ball is difficult, the light, the conditions, swing, spin - it's a very difficult pitch to bat on" then we watch as India steadily make their way to 150-1.

 

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Picking one specialist spinner looks like a genius move by England here given we've lost 9 out of 10 wickets to spin. I know our spinners aren't exactly in the same league as India's but the seamers are going to have to bowl outstandingly for this not to look like a disastrous team selection.

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12 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Not sure why we're after the umpire here - Stokes never had that under control.

I don't think that's a catch either. I would say that they chose to review the Leach catch from multiple angles and a number of times. The third umpire has looked at that once from front on and not even asked for anything else to base his decision on. 

As you say I don't think its out but given the farcical third umpire decisions in the series already I'd rather they took every step to make sure they get the right decision than have one look from one angle and overturn a soft decision of out on the field.

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17 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Not sure why we're after the umpire here - Stokes never had that under control.

Think maybe it has to do with the Leach dismissal where they spent a long time and looked at a lot of different angles before coming to a decision. On this occasion one look was apparently conclusive enough to overturn the soft call..

I fear the worst here, England seem like they think the world is against them.

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Just now, OutByEaster? said:

Yeah, but it was conclusive enough. He's not caught the ball.

 

I don't think he's caught it, but I'm not sure the angle shown disproves that there could of been a finger under the ball, I don't see the harm in at least looking at another angle for confirmation.

It was just all very quick when compared to the earlier incident.

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He look to me like he pushed it to the turf and it rolled away from him. I don't think it matters where his fingers are, he hasn't controlled it until it's rolled a foot away. I don't think it needed a second look. I'm surprised that we surrounded the umpire after the off field decision was made, I think if Kohli does that he gets pelters. We look a bit rattled.

 

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16 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

He look to me like he pushed it to the turf and it rolled away from him. I don't think it matters where his fingers are, he hasn't controlled it until it's rolled a foot away. I don't think it needed a second look. I'm surprised that we surrounded the umpire after the off field decision was made, I think if Kohli does that he gets pelters. We look a bit rattled.

 

Root is justifiably pissed off that they didn't check another angle.  You could tell he was gesturing with one finger that he couldn't believe they only looked at one angle.  It seems to have gone completely against any protocol I've seen in international cricket by neutral umpires.  I think the ball probably touched the ground but 2D pictures notoriously make it look worse for the fielder and when you are overturning a decision you need to look at it properly.  It's not as if it's an isolated incident as they cocked up with Rahane in the last match.

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7 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

Root is justifiably pissed off that they didn't check another angle. 

I don't think it's justifiable - it was so far away from being a catch, even on one viewing, that I think the Indian crowd were justified in booing Stokes for claiming it. There have been some peculiar decisions in the series but this one was as simple as they get.

 

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6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

I don't think it's justifiable - it was so far away from being a catch, even on one viewing, that I think the Indian crowd were justified in booing Stokes for claiming it. There have been some peculiar decisions in the series but this one was as simple as they get.

 

Like I say it goes completely against what I've seen over the years.  There have been far more obvious non-catches that they have taken time to look at properly.

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4 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

There have been far more obvious non-catches that they have taken time to look at properly.

Really? 

I think there might have been a case for looking at it again if the issue had been whether or not his finger was under the ball - but for that to have been the case he'd have to held onto it - for me it hits the ground, hits his hands, goes through, rolls away and then he picks it up and claims the catch - personally I think it's a genuinely dishonest one on Stokes part. I just think it's so obvious that there's no need to waste more time on it. From the reaction of Root and the bowlers I can only assume they hadn't seen the replay on the big screen in the ground.

 

 

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