tonyh29 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, zak said: Why? would it not be more usefull to learn a language still used today? Mandarin for example.... arguably Latin is the only universal language , or so the theory goes . plants , animals etc are all classified by a Latin name so get stranded somewhere with 5 or 6 different language speakers and Latin is your common theme for being understood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, tonyh29 said: arguably Latin is the only universal language , or so the theory goes . plants , animals etc are all classified by a Latin name so get stranded somewhere with 5 or 6 different language speakers and Latin is your common theme for being understood Provided those people happen to be zoologists or botanists (or Catholic priests). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted May 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: Provided those people happen to be zoologists or botanists (or Catholic priests). Eventually it will just be catholic priests, and then we'll all be buggered. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: arguably Latin is the only universal language , or so the theory goes . plants , animals etc are all classified by a Latin name so get stranded somewhere with 5 or 6 different language speakers and Latin is your common theme for being understood I do not deny any of that, but i presume you are not actually saying: "No, it would it not be more useful to learn a language still used today" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 Actually, outside the Vatican, where they still use it, I think Latin is pretty much unused by the Catholic church now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: Provided those people happen to be zoologists or botanists (or Catholic priests). the radio show I heard this on also seemed to think even yer average African tribal bushman would know it ... but I sorta agree with you , if someone was running away like made from a lion shouting "Leo " , "Leo" ..I wouldn't have a clue what they were going on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 i like ancient rome, and roman poetry in particular, so i may as well get to grips with the language. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BOF Posted May 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2016 On 18/05/2016 at 16:25, tonyh29 said: arguably Latin is the only universal language In terms of usefulness it's spoken by no-one. Other than as some say, to categorise plants and animals. In this case universal == useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, BOF said: In terms of usefulness it's spoken by no-one. Other than as some say, to categorise plants and animals. In this case universal == useless. lots of Latin phrases are still used and not just by General K , my son can speak a bit of it as they teach it at his school but the argument I was putting forward is that it IS potentially a universal language , that barely anyone speaks it wasn't the case I was putting forward Edited May 20, 2016 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2016 After a thorny few days in the main forum, I think I'm going to have to stick to Off Topic for the forseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 After a thorny few days in the main forum, I think I'm going to have to stick to Off Topic for the forseeable. Good luck finding conversation. As I mentioned the other day the takeover has killed this forum. Plane crashes only get about 6 or 7 posts at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The bio on some local artists' website, LOL- Quote My work delves into how to reconcile inevitable uncertainties. I make images that are intended to be both quiet and disquieting, as a way of exploring how to come to terms with unfathomable possibilities, unexplainable situations, and incalculable outcomes. Through making paintings and patterns characterized by obscurity and sparseness, I locate the point where panic and pleasure meet each other. This is an ongoing experiment in befriending and besieging fear. A good painting will at first delight you, and then deceive you. I'm interested in making work that occupies these two realms simultaneously. -AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Quote I'm a clearing. -AB Edited May 21, 2016 by Ingram85 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Alexei Sayle summed up this side of art. As a yoof he'd wanted to study art, he'd seen the cool kids going to Chelsea Arts College and wanted to get in there. He was really good at drawing horses and enjoyed drawing horses. But Chelsea Arts didn't want someone that was really good at drawing horses. They wanted someone to stand in the local shopping centre dressed as a teapot challenging people's perception of where the boundary between art and reality was in contemporary society. So he thought, oh ok, **** it, I'll just mess about then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Alexei Sayle summed up this side of art. As a yoof he'd wanted to study art, he'd seen the cool kids going to Chelsea Arts College and wanted to get in there. He was really good at drawing horses and enjoyed drawing horses. But Chelsea Arts didn't want someone that was really good at drawing horses. They wanted someone to stand in the local shopping centre dressed as a teapot challenging people's perception of where the boundary between art and reality was in contemporary society. So he thought, oh ok, **** it, I'll just mess about then. Don't get me started. I was the only kid at primary school who could draw horses. In fact I was regarded as the art star of the school. Got to high school, and the art teacher sneered at me. The kids who got all the kudos were the ones who made abstract sculptures out of milk cartons and called them "My Mind in 7/8 Time", or some such. I gave it up in the third year. I thought it was just me, but it turned put that my wife had exactly the same experience. And so did our kids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On May 20, 2016 at 11:36, tonyh29 said: lots of Latin phrases are still used and not just by General K , my son can speak a bit of it as they teach it at his school but the argument I was putting forward is that it IS potentially a universal language , that barely anyone speaks it wasn't the case I was putting forward I don't understand why Latin is a universal language? Most of the worlds languages aren't descended from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Quote People who watch porn more than once a week are likely to be more religious than those who watch it only a couple of times a month By all accounts I should be Jesus Christ himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2016 8 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I don't understand why Latin is a universal language? Most of the worlds languages aren't descended from it. Well, it isn't. But it once was in 'the known world' (i.e. Europe and the med), due the Roman Empire and then the Catholic Church. That legacy lasted until relatively recently. It was because of politics, not linguistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well, it isn't. But it once was in 'the known world' (i.e. Europe and the med), due the Roman Empire and then the Catholic Church. That legacy lasted until relatively recently. It was because of politics, not linguistics. Well, yes. But the context here was Tony saying Latin is 'potentially a universal language' which seems to imply the future rather than the past. On the last page, there was also something abou African tribesmen understanding it, which I didn't follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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