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Am also going to see Ted tonight, with a lady friend.

Not really looking forward to it to be honest, would rather stay home to watch family guy with a pot of Ben & Jerry's and save myself £30.

(There are obviously far better things to watch tonight than Family Guy, the Borgias for a start)

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would rather stay home ... with a pot of Ben & Jerry's.

Awkward. All this time I thought you were male. Lucky I never said anything inappropriate!

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I've been looking forward to seeing Ted, yet I'm currently stuck in bed with a cold so will have to give it a miss for a few days. Hopefully I'll be alright by the weekend. I think it looks pretty funny and I'm a fan of Family Guy so I'm expecting a few laughs.

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1 August 2012

Vertigo is named 'greatest film of all time'

Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo has usurped Orson Welles's Citizen Kane as the greatest film of all time in a poll by the BFI's Sight and Sound magazine.

The magazine polls its experts once a decade - and Citizen Kane has been their top pick for the last 50 years.

This time, 846 distributors, critics, academics and writers chose Hitchcock's 1958 suspense thriller, about a retired police officer with a fear of heights.

Starring James Stewart and Kim Novak, Vertigo beat Citizen Kane by 34 votes.

In the last poll 10 years ago, it was five votes short of toppling Kane.

Hitchcock called it his most personal film and it sees the director tackle one of his recurring themes - love as a fetish that degrades women and deranges men.

It opens with police officer Scotty Ferguson (Stewart) retiring from the police force after his vertigo inadvertently leads to the death of a colleague during a rooftop chase.

He is then hired by an old friend, whose wife Madeleine (Novak) has been behaving strangely.

As the story plays out against a glistening San Francisco skyline, there are dozens of twists and revelations that challenge the audience's preconceptions about the characters and events.

It has become famous for a camera trick Hitchcock invented to represent Scotty's vertigo: A simultaneous zoom-in and pull-back of the camera that creates a disorientating depth of field, known as a "dolly zoom" or "trombone shot".

Like 1941's Citizen Kane, Vertigo received mixed reviews on release but has grown in stature as time passed.

The BFI's list contained few surprises, with the top 10 mostly representing a reshuffle of the 2002 list - and all of the films more than 40 years old.

Yasujiro Ozu's Tokyo Story from 1953 was ranked third, bettering its last placement of number five, while Jean Renoir's La Regle du jeu dropped one place from three to four.

CRITICS TOP 10 FILMS OF ALL TIME

1. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

3. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)

4. La Regle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)

5. Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)

6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

7. The Searchers (Ford, 1956)

8. Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)

9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)

10. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

Source: Sight & Sound

The two new entries in the top 10 were both silent - Dziga Vertov's Man With a Movie Camera (1929) at number eight, and Carl Theodor Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc (1927) at nine.

The most recent film in the top 10 was Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) at six.

The top British film was The Third Man which came in at number 73.

For the poll, the panel voted for 2,045 films overall.

They were asked to interpret "greatest" as they chose - whether the film was most important to film history, aesthetic achievement or personal impact on their own view of cinema.

"This result reflects changes in the culture of film criticism," Nick James, the editor of Sight and Sound said.

"The new cinephilia seems to be not so much about films that strive to be great art, such as Citizen Kane, and that use cinema's entire arsenal of effects to make a grand statement, but more about works that have personal meaning to the critic.

"Vertigo is the ultimate critics' film because it is a dreamlike film about people who are not sure who they are but who are busy reconstructing themselves and each other to fit a kind of cinema ideal of the ideal soul mate."

Meanwhile, in a separate poll run by the magazine involving 358 film directors, Ozu's Tokyo Story was voted the Greatest Film of All Time.

Again Citizen Kane was knocked down to number two, a place it shared with Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey. Vertigo took seventh place.

Directors including Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Francis Ford Coppola, Woody Allen and Mike Leigh participated in the poll.

DIRECTOR'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)

=2 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

=2 Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

4. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)

6. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)

=7 The Godfather (Coppola, 1972)

=7 Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

9. Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1974)

10. Bicycle Thieves (De Sica, 1948)

Source: Sight & Sound

The full results of the polls will be published in Sight and Sound's September issue.

BBC

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Ted was actually really enjoyable.

I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

It's not amazing, but it's pretty funny, and the fact that the cinema was packed full made it even funnier, as an atmosphere always does.

Loved some of the cameos (won't give any away) and as people have already mentioned it, the Flash Gordon bits are brilliant.

Some of the jokes are pretty edgy as well, as you'd expect from McFarlane.

Not sure the Family Guy bits (flashbacks) work in a film, but there's very few of them and they're at the start, seems like they give up with that idea after a while.

Enjoyed it. Not a classic but certainly worth a trip for a few laughs.

Oh, and I have a lot more respect for Norah Jones now that I've seen that!

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1 August 2012

Vertigo is named 'greatest film of all time'

Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo has usurped Orson Welles's Citizen Kane as the greatest film of all time in a poll by the BFI's Sight and Sound magazine.

The magazine polls its experts once a decade - and Citizen Kane has been their top pick for the last 50 years.

This time, 846 distributors, critics, academics and writers chose Hitchcock's 1958 suspense thriller, about a retired police officer with a fear of heights.

Starring James Stewart and Kim Novak, Vertigo beat Citizen Kane by 34 votes.

In the last poll 10 years ago, it was five votes short of toppling Kane.

Hitchcock called it his most personal film and it sees the director tackle one of his recurring themes - love as a fetish that degrades women and deranges men.

It opens with police officer Scotty Ferguson (Stewart) retiring from the police force after his vertigo inadvertently leads to the death of a colleague during a rooftop chase.

He is then hired by an old friend, whose wife Madeleine (Novak) has been behaving strangely.

As the story plays out against a glistening San Francisco skyline, there are dozens of twists and revelations that challenge the audience's preconceptions about the characters and events.

It has become famous for a camera trick Hitchcock invented to represent Scotty's vertigo: A simultaneous zoom-in and pull-back of the camera that creates a disorientating depth of field, known as a "dolly zoom" or "trombone shot".

Like 1941's Citizen Kane, Vertigo received mixed reviews on release but has grown in stature as time passed.

The BFI's list contained few surprises, with the top 10 mostly representing a reshuffle of the 2002 list - and all of the films more than 40 years old.

Yasujiro Ozu's Tokyo Story from 1953 was ranked third, bettering its last placement of number five, while Jean Renoir's La Regle du jeu dropped one place from three to four.

CRITICS TOP 10 FILMS OF ALL TIME

1. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

3. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)

4. La Regle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)

5. Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)

6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

7. The Searchers (Ford, 1956)

8. Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)

9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)

10. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

Source: Sight & Sound

The two new entries in the top 10 were both silent - Dziga Vertov's Man With a Movie Camera (1929) at number eight, and Carl Theodor Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc (1927) at nine.

The most recent film in the top 10 was Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) at six.

The top British film was The Third Man which came in at number 73.

For the poll, the panel voted for 2,045 films overall.

They were asked to interpret "greatest" as they chose - whether the film was most important to film history, aesthetic achievement or personal impact on their own view of cinema.

"This result reflects changes in the culture of film criticism," Nick James, the editor of Sight and Sound said.

"The new cinephilia seems to be not so much about films that strive to be great art, such as Citizen Kane, and that use cinema's entire arsenal of effects to make a grand statement, but more about works that have personal meaning to the critic.

"Vertigo is the ultimate critics' film because it is a dreamlike film about people who are not sure who they are but who are busy reconstructing themselves and each other to fit a kind of cinema ideal of the ideal soul mate."

Meanwhile, in a separate poll run by the magazine involving 358 film directors, Ozu's Tokyo Story was voted the Greatest Film of All Time.

Again Citizen Kane was knocked down to number two, a place it shared with Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey. Vertigo took seventh place.

Directors including Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Francis Ford Coppola, Woody Allen and Mike Leigh participated in the poll.

DIRECTOR'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)

=2 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

=2 Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

4. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)

6. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)

=7 The Godfather (Coppola, 1972)

=7 Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

9. Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1974)

10. Bicycle Thieves (De Sica, 1948)

Source: Sight & Sound

The full results of the polls will be published in Sight and Sound's September issue.

BBC

To be honest never really liked vertigo, need to watch it again i guess. Of that list (critics) ive seen none (prob due to the age of these) other then 2001.

For me the greatest film EVER is One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest....comedy, drama, uplifting, depressing, amazing acting...its just the perfect movie

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I like Vertigo, but it's certainly not my favourite film. Might scrape into the top ten though.

Out of those two lists, I'd include among my faves: 2001, The Searchers, Taxi Driver, The Godfather and Mirror. Must make a list.

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I really want to see 2001 having relatively recently read the book. Of the top list I've only ever seen Vertigo, which I liked although it didn't hit me as an ATG at the time in the way '12 Angry Men' clearly did. I like that most of the rest of the list are relatively obscure, although my snobdar worries they're on the list because they're obscure in a 'look at me, I know shit' kind of way* :)

* A bit like our 'what are you listening to now' thread ;)

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I can't shake the thought that these so-called film "experts" think that their opinions are of more worth than those of the average plebeian. (Largely) conjecture, but I just can't help but view them this way.

I mean, if I enjoyed Justin Bieber's "Never Say Never" more than "The Godfather," there's no reason I should treat the latter as superior to the former, after all how can a movie be good if it's not entertaining?

(fwiw, I love the Godfather, and I've never watched Pretentious **** 101's movie, but you get what I mean.)

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The greatest film of all time is Ghostbusters, clearly.

I was in a film discussion with a group of aul' lads (65+). All fairly serious when one of them, straight as a die, came out with that same opinion and managed to keep a straight face for a good while. It was comedy gold given the situation. We lold out loud.

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Anyone got suggestions for DVDs to rent for me and my two sons? They are 14 and 10 (I am 45!). Recently we've seen Son of Rambow, Super 8, Groundhog Day, Trains Planes and Automobiles, Life of Brian and we've got Monsters to watch tonight.

Looking for something that 10yo and 14yo will enjoy. Up to 12ish rating.

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Trains Planes and Automobiles

I hope you covered their ears for the rent-a-car rant!

I'd completely forgotten that bit...until it happened...then I instantly remembered!

Youngest turned to me and said "it's alright dad, I know I shouldn't say those words".

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Trains Planes and Automobiles

I hope you covered their ears for the rent-a-car rant!

I'd completely forgotten that bit...until it happened...then I instantly remembered!

Youngest turned to me and said "it's alright dad, I know I shouldn't say those words".

Reminds me of the first time I took my daughter (then about 8 or 9) onto the Holte.
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