Zatman Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I didn’t think I’d see a situation where the refs are actively trying to even up the “injustice” of Liverpool’s disallowed goal from a few weeks ago. Bet old horse teeth will still find something to complain about if Liverpool don’t win. Dont remember them even it up for that Man City issue a few seasons back. Corrupt league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Distance doesn’t matter if his arm is in such an unnatural position and he makes zero effort to bring it back in tbh it’s out there before the cross even happens. What’s he doing!? Keane did the exact same thing at Leicester last season, he's just a terrible CB, probably the worst in the league. Pawson going to get loads of abuse after this game but he didn't actually gave that from first viewing. Completely bottled sending off Konate though as that was a clear second yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Do you run like a **** windmill? This happens really often, it's just 19/20 crosses it won't hit the guys arm so nobody notices. You run and your arm will come out, it's almost impossible to keep your arms tucked in at all times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: It isn't in an unnatural position. He's running and trying to stop. It's completely natural. Equally he has no time to react and pull his arm away, as originally stated. I would agree if it also wasn’t out there when he’d stopped running too. He had it out for at least 3 seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: This happens really often, it's just 19/20 crosses it won't hit the guys arm so nobody notices. You run and your arm will come out, it's almost impossible to keep your arms tucked in at all times. Surely teams are looking at this and saying aim for the hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I would agree if it also wasn’t out there when he’d stopped running too. He had it out for at least 3 seconds. Yeah, the key thing for me is is his arm is not in motion, he's not throwing his arms backwards and forwards as he sprints. He's just jogging along with his arm casually held out 90 degrees. It's basically a textbook example of what they're looking for with the "natural silhouette" stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Mohammed Salah-Penalty , surely not 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 The top defenders hold their hands behind their backs in that scenario. Everton are their own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, LondonLax said: The top defenders hold their hands behind their backs in that scenario. In a "natural" position??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: In a "natural" position??? They make sure if a ball hits their arm it is in a position where it would have hit their body anyway. Means there is no chance of a penalty by stopping a cross or shot with an outstretched arm. Edited October 21, 2023 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Everto have every right to be aggrieved So klopp should the game be replayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I didn’t think I’d see a situation where the refs are actively trying to even up the “injustice” of Liverpool’s disallowed goal from a few weeks ago. Didn't you? Seriously? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Everto have every right to be aggrieved So klopp should the game be replayed? Liverpool totally dominated that match, a draw or Everton win would have been a total smash and grab. If anything 2-0 flatters Everton. Everton are in for a long season. Edited October 21, 2023 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2023 Whenever the commentator said Szoboszlai, I just heard a weirdly bad Brummie/Black Country accent trying to introduce Bosley from Charlie Angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: In a "natural" position??? If his hand is down by the shoulder it dosen't get given, there was exactly an example of that a few minutes before when it hit Everton hand down by the side and it was quickly dismissed. Keane is just a brain dead defender. Dyche might have a moan about the penalty but his narrative should be about Pawson bottling sending off Konate as it was still 0-0 at the time. The fact he was subbed off two minutes later shows Klopp knew he had massively got away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Distance doesn’t matter if his arm is in such an unnatural position and he makes zero effort to bring it back in tbh it’s out there before the cross even happens. What’s he doing!? It's not in an unnatural position. That's clearly his natural position. He hasn't got ut like that because he us trying to hand ball it is he. Sorry its the terminology that's wrong. They should say that the handball was in his natural position, but he should have been in the unnatural position of having his arms glued to his side. Edited October 21, 2023 by turvontour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, turvontour said: It's not in unnatural position. That's clearly his natural position. He hasn't got ut like that because he us trying to hand ball it is he. Sorry its the terminology that's wrong. They should say that the handball was in his natural position, but he should have been I'm the unnatural position of having his arms glued to his side. Again I would usually agree with this line of thought but who stands with their arm at 90 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Do you run like a **** windmill? I assumed you've played sport before? It's impossible to move at speed and have your arms glued to your sides. The other defender is in exactly the same position. If the ball hits his arm it's also a penalty. Why are all the players defending in such an unnatural way? Haha. As if they're thick and don't know how to block crosses. Its such an idiotic rule and bad terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Again I would usually agree with this line of thought but who stands with their arm at 90 degrees? A defender? Why are they both doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, turvontour said: A defender? Why are they both doing it? The other defender is leaping in to block to cross, his arm is in what people would accept as natural for an athletic lunge in. Keane is jogging around with his arm hanging as far out as he possibly could, in a fixed position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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