Tom13 Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: Be that as it may - you're entitled to your feelings - Carlos has a higher win percentage of games played than Lenglet. Other factors involved but I would err towards results and facts over feelings personally. I like both of them, but I rate Carlos higher generally. That's fair. Regarding the win percentage though, not sure we can place too much importance on that? Carlos I'd assume has played many more games when Pau was fit? And we all know how crucial he is to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astondalston Posted February 28 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28 I’d just like to take a moment to remember the time, not so long ago, when we had to rely on Jan Bednarak.. Thanks for reading, I’ll be on my way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 28 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28 I wouldn't be against selling Carlos and keeping Lenglet. Carlos is made of glass sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 16 hours ago, PieFacE said: I wouldn't be against selling Carlos and keeping Lenglet. Carlos is made of glass sadly. Lenglet is also over 2 years younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 16 hours ago, PieFacE said: I wouldn't be against selling Carlos and keeping Lenglet. Carlos is made of glass sadly. Why are people obsessed with getting rid of one of the two right footed CBs we have on the books to stack up on LCBs? We need Lenglet (or replacement) and Carlos (or replacement). They perform different roles and have different skillsets 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 29 VT Supporter Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Why are people obsessed with getting rid of one of the two right footed CBs we have on the books to stack up on LCBs? We need Lenglet (or replacement) and Carlos (or replacement). They perform different roles and have different skillsets Who's obsessed about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 18 hours ago, astondalston said: I’d just like to take a moment to remember the time, not so long ago, when we had to rely on Jan Bednarak.. Thanks for reading, I’ll be on my way. His last start for us was against Fulham away which got Gerrard sacked instantaneously. Seems like he did a very good job for us to me. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 hours ago, CVByrne said: Why are people obsessed with getting rid of one of the two right footed CBs we have on the books to stack up on LCBs? We need Lenglet (or replacement) and Carlos (or replacement). They perform different roles and have different skillsets If Mings comes back we don't need Lenglet or a replacement. We do need a Carlos or his replacement, and if Konsa is to be a right back we probably need another RCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 29 Moderator Share Posted February 29 3 hours ago, PieFacE said: Who's obsessed about it? Me. I haven't slept for what feels like weeks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 25 minutes ago, MrBlack said: If Mings comes back we don't need Lenglet or a replacement. We do need a Carlos or his replacement, and if Konsa is to be a right back we probably need another RCB. Completely. Utterly. Wrong We need a LCB of a back 3 in possession to be out progressive passer and carrier. Mings is not a backup/alternative to Pau for the role we need. Mings is a central CB of a back three there for defending, recovery pace, recycling possession with simple passes. Football isn't left footed CB and Right footed CB. It's what role are they playing. What skills do they need 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 19 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Completely. Utterly. Wrong We need a LCB of a back 3 in possession to be out progressive passer and carrier. Mings is not a backup/alternative to Pau for the role we need. Mings is a central CB of a back three there for defending, recovery pace, recycling possession with simple passes. Football isn't left footed CB and Right footed CB. It's what role are they playing. What skills do they need You are aware Mings played that role last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 35 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Completely. Utterly. Wrong We need a LCB of a back 3 in possession to be out progressive passer and carrier. Mings is not a backup/alternative to Pau for the role we need. Mings is a central CB of a back three there for defending, recovery pace, recycling possession with simple passes. Football isn't left footed CB and Right footed CB. It's what role are they playing. What skills do they need Actually, the central CB will often be the best passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: You are aware Mings played that role last season? He was one of only 3 CBs at the club and only left footed one. Also we played 2 CBs and a more defensive RB in a 4 2 2 2 not our build up structure of 3 2 4 1 like this season. So no, Mings did not play the role Pau perfoms in the current team. Mings and Pau would play in the same team had Mings not been injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Actually, the central CB will often be the best passer. Very subjective the word "best" I assume you mean having highest passing accuracy. Takes no account of the difficulty or the risk reward of pass Also what is best for Villa and our structure can and is different to other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Why is it weird to have multiple LCBs, when most teams play with 2 RCBs without any issue? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Surely too expensive for us to keep him, but would welcome him staying at the club if the money made sense somehow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted March 1 Popular Post Share Posted March 1 Funny how this guy is holding our season together. Honestly, what a signing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 A continual reminder to us to that maybe we should not judge new signings until they’ve had time to settle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I remember after his first appearance for us, I was very critical of him and rather too quick to judge him. I also recall someone on here reproaching me for my hastiness, and, tbf, they were absolutely right to do so. Also, I have to confess, he has proven me wrong with every game he's played since his first. There's an assurance about him now, which is his reciprocation for the trust and confidence that the manager has shown towards him. He excelled against Forest, it's almost like Torres's ability is infectious, he even made Carlos look decent. Incidentally, for me, he gets in that defence before DC, even with a fit Konsa, he probably still deserves his place. Maybe the right foot sways it for Konsa, but, it's still refreshing to have that depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: I remember after his first appearance for us, I was very critical of him and rather too quick to judge him. I also recall someone on here reproaching me for my hastiness, and, tbf, they were absolutely right to do so. Also, I have to confess, he has proven me wrong with every game he's played since his first. There's an assurance about him now, which is his reciprocation for the trust and confidence that the manager has shown towards him. He excelled against Forest, it's almost like Torres's ability is infectious, he even made Carlos look decent. Incidentally, for me, he gets in that defence before DC, even with a fit Konsa, he probably still deserves his place. Maybe the right foot sways it for Konsa, but, it's still refreshing to have that depth. Sorry but this is nonsense. He's nowhere near a fit Konsa's level. Konsa is one of the best centre-halves in the Premier League IMO, top 10 for sure. Lenglet doesn't come within throwing distance of that group, he's average enough and the revisionism here is a bit baffling just because he's the best of what we've been left with through a bizarrely long list of defensive injuries. He's been fine, nothing to crow about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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