tinker Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, alreadyexists said: Mad to think that when Spurs kick off we’ll have played 3 more games than them… I mean, for a team with no Europe, and not in the cups, that shouldn’t really happen should it!? I think from our point of view it’s lovely to pile pressure on an opponent, but from the PL’s point of view it’s rubbish really and shouldn’t happen It's wrong, it's a good job we have won our last 2 games, we could have been in a position where spurs would know exactly what they have to do, as win , draw etc. As things have turned out we have put pressure on them but we still have European games sandwiched amongst premier league games to come. Edited April 25 by tinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Maybe, but they'd probably have to lose every game to finish below us, and even then we'd need to win 3 out of 4 games It's not going to happen Mathematical possibilities only exist for Manure catching us, not us catching Liverplop. #VTLogic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I bet Emery won't have the defeatist attitude like some in here... Much like last season the same posters were saying Europe was NOT on, look what happened... I'm a believer mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I bet Emery won't have the defeatist attitude like some in here... Much like last season the same posters were saying Europe was NOT on, look what happened... I'm a believer mate. Well seeing as it's me saying this and last season I never said europe wasn't on, this is bollocks isn't it It's not a defeatist attitude to point out that something has a very very very low chance of happening. I pointed out months ago that Man Utd had a very very low chance of catching us, so was that blind optimism? Do you think we're going to win the league? Because if you don't that's defeatist because it's mathematically possible Edited April 25 by Stevo985 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Well seeing as it's me saying this and last season I never said europe wasn't on, this is bollocks isn't it It's not a defeatist attitude to point out that something has a very very very low chance of happening. I pointed out months ago that Man Utd had a very very low chance of catching us, so was that blind optimism? Do you think we're going to win the league? Because if you don't that's defeatist because it's mathematically possible There were quite a few saying this last season to be fair.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 Just now, Zhan_Zhuang said: There were quite a few saying this last season to be fair.... But demonstrably not the same posters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Stevo985 said: But demonstrably not the same posters There is consistency though, LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 22 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Maybe, but they'd probably have to lose every game to finish below us, and even then we'd need to win 3 out of 4 games It's not going to happen That's the spirit. So, what happens if we beat Chelsea and Brighton (entirely possible), and Liverpool lose to West Ham (also entirely possible), we'll only be two points behind them and they now need to beat Spurs or at least get a draw to be 3 points ahead with two games left and us still to play. Believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: There is consistency though, LOL Not really. I'm the one who is saying we won't finish 3rd. I was also the one who even as far back as February, when everyone was crying and saying we'd finish behind Man Utd, was doing the maths and telling everyone they wouldn't get anywhere near us. So the implication that I'm saying we won't finish 3rd because I'm defeatist or not a believer is bollocks, otherwise I'd have been joining in with the bed wetters back then. I'm saying it because it's mathematically (highly) improbable. Edited April 25 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, duke313 said: That's the spirit. So, what happens if we beat Chelsea and Brighton (entirely possible), and Liverpool lose to West Ham (also entirely possible), we'll only be two points behind them and they now need to beat Spurs or at least get a draw to be 3 points ahead with two games left and us still to play. Believe. Just now, Stevo985 said: So the implication that I'm saying we won't finish 3rd because I'm defeatist or not a believer is bollocks. I'm saying it because it's mathematically (highly) improbable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Stevo985 said: Not really. I'm the one who is saying we won't finish 3rd. I was also the one who even as far back as February, when everyone was crying and saying we'd finish behind Man Utd, was doing the maths and telling everyone they wouldn't get anywhere near us. So the implication that I'm saying we won't finish 3rd because I'm defeatist or not a believer is bollocks. I'm saying it because it's mathematically (highly) improbable. Good for you... Whilst it's possible I'm happy to believe it is possible also, much the same a s the European run last season when people had that same defeatist attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Good for you... Whilst it's possible I'm happy to believe it is possible also Nobody said it wasn't possible. Of course it's possible. It's also possible that we can win the league. But nobody is saying we are because people recognise it's highly improbable that that will happen. Blindly believing something will happen when it almost certainly won't doesn't make you some sort of better fan. And people who recognise how unlikely the outcome is aren't defeatist. That's just bullshit better fan bollocks 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vive_La_Villa Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Come on lads saying we won’t catch Liverpool is not defeatist it’s being realistic. Yes we can win all our games but the chances of that happening and Liverpool losing 5 league games in a row is near impossible! If I believed this could happen I’d be all over it at the bookies ! Worth a pound bet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Nobody said it wasn't possible. Of course it's possible. It's also possible that we can win the league. But nobody is saying we are because people recognise it's highly improbable that that will happen. Blindly believing something will happen when it almost certainly won't doesn't make you some sort of better fan. And people who recognise how unlikely the outcome is aren't defeatist. That's just bullshit better fan bollocks Also it's never so matter of fact, one person might feel differently and it doesn't have to resort in name-calling or mentioning the better fan theory... Just chill and we'll see what happens; if Plop continue to falter and Villa maintain form third is of course a super long-shot but you never know... This is why I said you can bet Unai Emery believes, you aren't going to tell him any differently; many said the same last year saying Europe wasn't on and I was saying Emery was always positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Jas10 said: Why is he wearing a Kappa kit thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Also it's never so matter of fact, one person might feel differently and it doesn't have to resort in name-calling or mentioning the better fan theory... Just chill and we'll see what happens; if Plop continue to falter and Villa maintain form third is of course a super long-shot but you never know... This is why I said you can bet Unai Emery believes, you aren't going to tell him any differently; many said the same last year saying Europe wasn't on and I was saying Emery was always positive. I'm super chilled. And I'm very positive, and I think we'll have a great run in. I think Emery approaches every game believing we can win and I'm behind that 100% None of that changes by me pointing out we won't finish 3rd You were the one who started labelling people defeatist or non-believers because they pointed out an improbability. So the bit in bold is quite funny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I'm super chilled. And I'm very positive, and I think we'll have a great run in. I think Emery approaches every game believing we can win and I'm behind that 100% None of that changes by me pointing out we won't finish 3rd You were the one who started labelling people defeatist or non-believers because they pointed out an improbability. So the bit in bold is quite funny As I said it's a good job Emery doesn't share that same defeatist attitude... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25 Just now, Zhan_Zhuang said: As I said it's a good job Emery doesn't share that same defeatist attitude... Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 12 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Reading this thread tonight, Palace are now world beaters, The Harlem Globetrotters of Football. Chelsea and Liverpool now easy games For Villa and Spurs. Anything else I missed? On the pedantic side, the "The Harlem Globetrotters" never played in a competitive framework. Hence, why they were unbeatable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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