bobzy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 16 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: They do. Doesn't seem to suggest this on the UEFA site. With club coefficient, it specifically excludes them: UEFA Europa Conference League points 1 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the first qualifying round 1.5 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the second qualifying round 2 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the third qualifying round 2.5 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the play-offs 2 – All wins from group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs) 1 – All draws from group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs) 2 – Group winners 1 – Group runners-up 1 – Each round clubs reach from the semi-finals (Link: https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/about/) ...and at the bottom, the Association Coefficient makes absolutely no reference to anything after the group stage. Although that's possibly just absolutely terrible wording from UEFA Edited March 8 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 22 minutes ago, bobzy said: Doesn't seem to suggest this on the UEFA site. With club coefficient, it specifically excludes them: UEFA Europa Conference League points 1 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the first qualifying round 1.5 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the second qualifying round 2 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the third qualifying round 2.5 – Awarded to each club eliminated in the play-offs 2 – All wins from group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs) 1 – All draws from group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs) 2 – Group winners 1 – Group runners-up 1 – Each round clubs reach from the semi-finals (Link: https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/about/) ...and at the bottom, the Association Coefficient makes absolutely no reference to anything after the group stage. Although that's possibly just absolutely terrible wording from UEFA I'm just going on what Dale says (and it's the authority on this shit generally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 hours ago, duke313 said: As I'd had said, a **** disaster for England yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, CVByrne said: As I'd had said, a **** disaster for England yesterday. A disaster would be no chance left. Still very much a bit chance we get it. The only result that was unexpected was Freiburg. We need to make sure we have one more team than Germany competing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, omariqy said: A disaster would be no chance left. Still very much a bit chance we get it. The only result that was unexpected was Freiburg. We need to make sure we have one more team than Germany competing. If West Ham can knock Freiburg out and the rest of the teams go through England will have 5 left and Germany 3. A lot hinges on West Ham really. We need City to draw Bayern next round to get them out hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, CVByrne said: If West Ham can knock Freiburg out and the rest of the teams go through England will have 5 left and Germany 3. A lot hinges on West Ham really. We need City to draw Bayern next round to get them out hopefully Does it? It seems to me the case for England essentially boils down to having arguably the strongest side in each of the three competitions (Man City, Liverpool, us). If those three clubs go all the way then what happens to West Ham or Brighton isn't really going to matter. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Agreed. If Man city, Liverpool and us win 2 out of the 3 competitions it won’t even be close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 7 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: Agreed. If Man city, Liverpool and us win 2 out of the 3 competitions it won’t even be close. It's why I don't understand why people torture themselves by following every shift in the numbers from week to week. If City, Liverpool and us (but especially the first two) are still in their tournaments, 'England' are on track. If they go out, that's when you might want to start sweating the numbers. For now, all is golden. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Ideally we win the conference and finish 4th, and all other English teams go out asap 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 30 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's why I don't understand why people torture themselves by following every shift in the numbers from week to week. If City, Liverpool and us (but especially the first two) are still in their tournaments, 'England' are on track. If they go out, that's when you might want to start sweating the numbers. For now, all is golden. True to an extent but it Bayern Dortumund Leverkusen and Freiburg get to the final or semi final then there's still a chance they picked up enough points to beat England regardless of 2 English teams winning the tournaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 22 minutes ago, omariqy said: True to an extent but it Bayern Dortumund Leverkusen and Freiburg get to the final or semi final then there's still a chance they picked up enough points to beat England regardless of 2 English teams winning the tournaments You're probably right, but that to me is a bit 'lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change'. EDIT: To put that a bit less archaically, 'shit happens' I suppose. If the German clubs win it on merit then we didn't 'deserve' it. Edited March 9 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Adman said: Ideally we win the conference and finish 4th, and all other English teams go out asap Exactly this. We have been shit hot for almost 18 months. We finished 7th last season after a bad start. We have been top four most of this season and even 2nd a few times. Back Unai and the boys to bring it home, let's not worry too much about 5th. If we get 4th it will actually devalue the achievement if Spuds creep in via 5th. **** 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Nah we want English teams to do well. ,8 teams in Europe next year have a better chance of getting another 5th place than 7 for the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthEastVillan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) United doing united things again. Completely outplayed for 45 minutes and 2-0 up with two pens dunno how they keep this up tbh. 8 points behind at this stage. Edited March 9 by NorthEastVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted March 9 VT Supporter Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, colhint said: Nah we want English teams to do well. ,8 teams in Europe next year have a better chance of getting another 5th place than 7 for the following year. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: How? More of our rivals also playing weekend - midweek - weekend and having to manage those extra games rather than being able to rest between league matches. Newcastle and Brighton have both struggled at times this season in part because of the extra matches they've had to play, the quick turnaround and the extra demands that puts on their players and squads. Emery's been able (so far) to balance this to an extent by us not having to play at the same intensity in our European matches - which will be more difficult next season assuming we qualify for either the CL or the Europa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 20 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: How? This year we got 8 places because West ham won the ECL last year and qualified for EL despite finishing outside top 7. Giving us 8 places in Europe. This season Liverpool will probably win it but they will probably qualify for CL through league position. So back down to seven. This year Germany had 7 teams in Europe. I gives us an advantage to have more teams picking up points for the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, NorthEastVillan said: United doing united things again. Completely outplayed for 45 minutes and 2-0 up with two pens dunno how they keep this up tbh. 8 points behind at this stage. Not really outplayed. They let them have the ball so they could play on the counter. Not like they Everton peppered Onana with shots. Looked very comfortable for United. Edited March 9 by Pinebro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Not really outplayed. They let them have the ball so they could play on the counter. Not like they Everton peppered Onana with shots. Looked very comfortable for United. I only watched some but interesting to read that vs the stats - Everton had 23 shots at Old Trafford! That can’t happen too regularly even these days. But trust your eye test - sometimes games can still feel very comfortable even if the stats are skewed, especially with an early lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Man Utd were always more than likely to beat Everton at home, but if they were going to win at all, that they needed two penalties to do so, is probably the best way for them to do so for us, as not exactly the most confidence boosting win, I doubt it will inspire them to go on a winning run between now and the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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