Sulberto21 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 A lot of fans are talking about bed wetting etc but for me I just wanted to see us go top once this season. Realistically this is a top 4 race for us. But to see us top the league once after where we have been and the football we’ve seen for nearly 12 seasons or so would have been an immense moment of pride. As for top 4 we need to in every block of 5 get at least 10 points from now to the end of the season. Then we’ll have 4 games remaining on 69 points. Right Burnley are due a pasting from us 9-0 should do it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjackle Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Great league this year, you can see any of the top ten taking points off each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: A lot of fans are talking about bed wetting etc but for me I just wanted to see us go top once this season. Realistically this is a top 4 race for us. But to see us top the league once after where we have been and the football we’ve seen for nearly 12 seasons or so would have been an immense moment of pride. As for top 4 we need to in every block of 5 get at least 10 points from now to the end of the season. Then we’ll have 4 games remaining on 69 points. Right Burnley are due a pasting from us 9-0 should do it. This hurt like hell. I don’t want to sound like that fan but VAR made sure it didn’t happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 I never expected us to be top of the league in any capacity for another 5-10 years. I'm not losing any sleep over not doing it this season. Even top 4, I didn't think we'd be in the mix for this year, top 5 at an absolute push if we'd had a storming season. This is so far above my wildest expectations. I'm just enjoying the ride. Only 4 losses in the league halfway through. We usually go through those by September. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I never expected us to be top of the league in any capacity for another 5-10 years. I'm not losing any sleep over not doing it this season. Even top 4, I didn't think we'd be in the mix for this year, top 5 at an absolute push if we'd had a storming season. This is so far above my wildest expectations. I'm just enjoying the ride. Only 4 losses in the league halfway through. We usually go through those by September. We’ve got something only 2 other teams in this league have in my opinion. So I wouldn’t bet against us finishing top 4. Edited December 28, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’ve got something only 2 other teams in this league have in my opinion. So I wouldn’t bet against us finishing top 4. We've got something no other team has. Unai Emery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, stewiek2 said: We've got something no other team has. Unai Emery You’re right! But our fans will turn on him eventually. It is the way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Spurs, Arsenal and Newcastle all losing the same game week is good. But we need to beat Burnley and hope we get some help from Forest at home to Man United. Shame we couldn't have got more from last two games but positives to try take are we did everything right for 60 mins against Man United and just lost control. It's our home form keeping us in the running for top 5 and CL so we need to get that win and win against Newcastle too. I think we've missed Pau Kamara and Tielemans because they're out at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 hours ago, DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth said: Agree, though West Ham now in the picture. They win games based more in luck than anything. Teams like that can go in good runs and bad runs. The Moyes system is fundamentally limited and they can't win consistently enough to get the points required to be in this top 5 race in any season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: They win games based more in luck than anything. Teams like that can go in good runs and bad runs. The Moyes system is fundamentally limited and they can't win consistently enough to get the points required to be in this top 5 race in any season. His system also won them a European trophy, and they sold their best player this season. I'm not a Moyes fan, but your post is far too dismissive... Edited December 29, 2023 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: His system also won them a European trophy, and they sold their best player this season. I'm not a Moyes fan, but your post is far too dismissive... Defensive and counter attacking is going to do well against top teams but badly against weaker teams. They will not win enough of the games they are expected to because of the system. They win a European trophy because they are. Premier League team. Vastly superior budgets than all by Champions League teams abroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Defensive and counter attacking is going to do well against top teams but badly against weaker teams. They will not win enough of the games they are expected to because of the system. They win a European trophy because they are. Premier League team. Vastly superior budgets than all by Champions League teams abroad We have lost to Sheffield United and Forrest.... You could say the same thing about our system then. I don't think anyone should be dismissing teams only six points behind us... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: We have lost to Sheffield United and Forrest.... You could say the same thing about our system then. I don't think anyone should be dismissing teams only six points behind us... I'm pretty sure we didn't lose to Sheffield United. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I'm pretty sure we didn't lose to Sheffield United. Haha yes my mistake there, twas still a poor result and we couldn't break them down, which is more the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Villan_of_oz said: We have lost to Sheffield United and Forrest.... You could say the same thing about our system then. I don't think anyone should be dismissing teams only six points behind us... If West Ham catch us it will be because we have dropped heavily off the pace needed to finish in the top five not because they'll be replacing us in there. They remind me of us under O'Neill, limited by the style of football no matter how good the results may be at times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, picicata said: If West Ham catch us it will be because we have dropped heavily off the pace needed to finish in the top five not because they'll be replacing us in there. They remind me of us under O'Neill, limited by the style of football no matter how good the results may be at times Yeah, but it's telling he tried to change how they play last season to a more possession based team who can control games. It failed and he reverted to the old style of deep defence and rapid counter attacks to "live off scraps" as Antonio himself called it. The fact they wanted to change style shows even Moyes knows the limitations to their style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 11 hours ago, maxjackle said: Great league this year, you can see any of the top ten taking points off each other. Honestly anyone below city arsenal and Liverpool could finish anywhere between 4th and 9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 How the table would finish if like-for-like results from last season are matched for the remainder of this season: 1. Arsenal 80 (-4) 2. Man City 77 (-12) 3. Liverpool 71 (+4) 4. Aston Villa 69 (+8) 5. Man Utd 68 (-7) 6. Spurs 66 (+6) 7. Newcastle 64 (-7) 8. Brighton 56 (-6) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This hurt like hell. I don’t want to sound like that fan but VAR made sure it didn’t happen. The wife was watching at home, so she took a screenshot of us top just after Bailey scored 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Get 70 points, we make top 4. Very confident of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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