TomC Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Steero113 said: If you think that Pau Torres has come to rotate or provide squad depth then I have news for you. Emery rates him as one of the best CB's in Europe. He will start every game for us when fit. I expect him to start often. Based on the last few preseason matches, I think we're going to see a lot of Cash-Konsa-Mings-Pau or Konsa-Mings-Pau-Moreno, where we start 3 of the 4 CBs and then a wing back on one side or the other depending on the opponent's weaknesses. We will probably also see Cash-CB-CB-Moreno sometimes, but which two CBs would be selected in that situation remains to be seen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, TomC said: I expect him to start often. Based on the last few preseason matches, I think we're going to see a lot of Cash-Konsa-Mings-Pau or Konsa-Mings-Pau-Moreno, where we start 3 of the 4 CBs and then a wing back on one side or the other depending on the opponent's weaknesses. We will probably also see Cash-CB-CB-Moreno sometimes, but which two CBs would be selected in that situation remains to be seen. Great selection headache to have! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, TomC said: Oh, I agree that the squad is stronger. That's why I distinguished the quality of the starting XI. Only Diaby significantly upgrades the starting XI. Pau and Tielemans mean we can afford an injury to our CBs or Kamara or Doug and not miss a beat, but if they start, they displace someone of approximately equal quality. Note: I actually meant " Top Class " not " World Class " lol but that just came out, maybe a sign of things to come. hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: Haha. Are the Villa finally big enough now, João? Or you still need a big, big club? How depressed can somebody be if you are paid £13 million per year. Obviously he is saying he want a CL or a big club, but what he really mean is that he want a club that can afford to pay him what he makes now. If he comes to us, he will be payed less than half of what he gets now. If we manage to get him for a reasonable transfer fee on reasonably wages, it would be an absolute miracle. He is clearly an upgrade to what we have, and I would love to see him in a Villa shirt. If the club manage to get Felix, they should move on to Mbappe, since they can make the impossible happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paul514 Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: How depressed can somebody be if you are paid £13 million per year. Obviously he is saying he want a CL or a big club, but what he really mean is that he want a club that can afford to pay him what he makes now. If he comes to us, he will be payed less than half of what he gets now. If we manage to get him for a reasonable transfer fee on reasonably wages, it would be an absolute miracle. He is clearly an upgrade to what we have, and I would love to see him in a Villa shirt. If the club manage to get Felix, they should move on to Mbappe, since they can make the impossible happened. Depression isn’t about money it’s about feeling hopeless. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: How depressed can somebody be if you are paid £13 million per year. Obviously he is saying he want a CL or a big club, but what he really mean is that he want a club that can afford to pay him what he makes now. If he comes to us, he will be payed less than half of what he gets now. If we manage to get him for a reasonable transfer fee on reasonably wages, it would be an absolute miracle. He is clearly an upgrade to what we have, and I would love to see him in a Villa shirt. If the club manage to get Felix, they should move on to Mbappe, since they can make the impossible happened. Do you think money makes people immune from depression? Really annoying reading opinions like that. 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Come on guys get rid of those fringe players and bring a couple more in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, lexicon said: Do you think money makes people immune from depression? Really annoying reading opinions like that. Probably just John Gregory posting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Bit different to the usual stuff and it's a slow news night so just to move the conversation along... A Barca ITK (so as usual, take everything with a pinch of salt until a reputable source says anything) says we've offered for Ferran Torres: 4m loan fee for season we pay all his wages during loan 30m mandatory fee at end of loan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wes said: Bit different to the usual stuff and it's a slow news night so just to move the conversation along... A Barca ITK (so as usual, take everything with a pinch of salt until a reputable source says anything) says we've offered for Ferran Torres: 4m loan fee for season we pay all his wages during loan 30m mandatory fee at end of loan Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wes said: Bit different to the usual stuff and it's a slow news night so just to move the conversation along... A Barca ITK (so as usual, take everything with a pinch of salt until a reputable source says anything) says we've offered for Ferran Torres: 4m loan fee for season we pay all his wages during loan 30m mandatory fee at end of loan A quick Google says he is on 120,000 Euros per week, which is about half of what I thought. ( Circa 10,000,000 Euros per season ) So if we sign him permanently, it's a 44 Euro mill deal in total? Edited August 2, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: A quick Google says he is on 120,000 Euros per week, which is about half of what I thought. ( Circa 10,000,000 Euros per season ) So if we sign him permanently, it's a 44 Euro mill deal in total? Most sites I've seen have been figures of about €196k/ or £165k/w give or take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: A quick Google says he is on 120,000 Euros per week, which is about half of what I thought. ( Circa 10,000,000 Euros per season ) So if we sign him permanently, it's a 44 Euro mill deal in total? Sure the figures weren’t net? Probably is half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Barca trying to terminate Dest's contract... That club is an absolute basketcase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeypuzzle Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 If the club are happy to pay that much, go for it. He will definitely add a great deal to our surprisingly impressive squad. Top level goalkeeper. Hard to argue that there is anyone better. Back up has had questions asked of him, but is still a veteran international. 4 fantastic centre backs. Can't think of any club other than Man City with as much quality in depth. 2 top quality left backs, each offering something slightly different. A strong right back. This is a position that we discuss a lot in terms of a second player to compete. 4 amazing deep lying midfielders. The weakest of which is a regular in one of the top international teams. 7 very talented attacking midfielders, with varying levels of consistency and form right now. A high quality striker, who's hard work makes up for the little bit of extra talent that the best strikers in the league have. Frequent debates about whether we get another experienced striker as competition or rely on our talented youngsters. All this without even going into talented youth players. Only 2 senior players that we have to unload still and any other outgoings will probably mean more top quality replacing them. I can't remember our squad ever looking so healthy top to bottom. Back on topic, Torres can work in both a striker/attacking midfielder role. I'm certainly not complaining if our attacking options in midfield are Diaby, Torres, McGinn, Ramsey, Buendia, Coutinho, Bailey and Traore, possibly also A. Ramsey and Philogene-Bidace. Yes that's 8-10 players competing for 3 starting positions and 3 bench spots and yes, some of those might depart in the next month, but I'm certainly not complaining about this squad, or the possibility of adding more top players like Ferran Torres to it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, paul514 said: Depression isn’t about money it’s about feeling hopeless. Yes but if you have millions of squids in yer pocket, you not only have hope, you can do absolutely anything you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: Barca trying to terminate Dest's contract... That club is an absolute basketcase Bring him in as well. Pacey right full back. They can have Hause and Davis in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, paul514 said: Probably just John Gregory posting The late 90s were a different time in fairness, now there's much greater awareness and understanding as seen by the general opinions on the Dele interview. Back to Felix, pretty sure he's been tipped off that Barca want him so if they unload someone like Ferran Torres they'll probably have enough room to sign him on late loan deal. He clearly is not interested one bit in joining us so would rather get in someone else who would be very excited to join the Emery project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: Barca trying to terminate Dest's contract... That club is an absolute basketcase Dest was quite good at Ajax wasn't he? American so would have no issue settling and still young enough for us to have him as a backup and see if he can find form again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jareth said: Yes but if you have millions of squids in yer pocket, you not only have hope, you can do absolutely anything you want. Would having millions of squids in yer pocket bring back partners who've left, or loved ones who've passed away? Both valid reasons for depression that money cannot solve. Money often helps and would alleviate many problems for people who arent wealthy, but money does not solve every problem. Anyway, OT. Back on it... I doubt we'd go for Dest, he'll be on Barca wages... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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