calcifer Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Still think we need a clinical striker that can push Watkins. But that is going to cost some money. Newcastle spent a hefty sum on their new forward but will reap the benefit this season. Will be better investing in a RB possibly another CB now. But to push on we do need another forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, AVTuco said: No use signing anyone of note really. Just cheap depth signings and wait for next year again. We are in a very winnable cup competition (West Ham had plenty of injuries last season). Seasons are long and other teams will get bad injuries to key players so not like we're an outlier given Chelsea in last few weeks lost Fofana for the season and now Nukunu up to December. To just shrug shoulders and not do anything about it is very odd mentality. Read somewhere Forest want Demiral from Atalanta so that's a CB we should be targeting, mid 20s and already a good couple of seasons in europe and used to playing in a high line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Good quote this is think: 'Newcastle are a chain of strong links, both in the starting 11, and on the bench. Villa have eight or nine strong links, but two or three weak ones. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.' 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 'Newcastle aren't even that good' **** me Losing Mings is so devastating to the high line tactic, I'm not sure what kind of players out there can we can sign that can play the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I fell asleep at half time, but I read up on what has happened..... I feel some people are having a bit of a paddy about some things we already knew before today. 1. We need a defensive right back 2. We needed a wide midfielder for the McGinn/Ramsey role as the only real back up we had for that role was Buendia. 3. We could do with 1 more lights out attacking player like Diaby if we are going to play a different way. 4. Watkins is good but not Elite. What is new is now we have Mings possibly out for the rest of the season, so here is my take. We aren't spending big on a new centre back unless one of our main four leave, Pau now becomes an automatic starter and Carlos will be given more game time to prove his body is ok. Chambers should simply be kept as a forth choice. Problem number one, we need a new defensive right back, I have said previously I think we should give Man Utd the money for AWB and that solves the problem. Problem number two can be fixed by a number of people as you aren't buying a winger for this position currently like we would have in previous days. Again previously I suggested signing Sessegnon from Spurs as he offers defensive capability, attacking capability and speed, whilst being very gettable, relatively low cost and if it pays off then there is a lot of resale value. I would be surprised if you couldn't buy the two for 50m If we are out of money after that then we could deal with it, we don't want to scrimp on forwards/strikers. My take is neither Bailey or Coutinho will make it here, rather have Traore over those two. Diaby is great so you would really be looking for another. As for striker, I am happy to go with Watkins/Archer for the season. The only top striker seemingly available on the market is Vlahovic they seemingly want 60m plus for him and I doubt he wants to leave Turin for Villa park. Scouting is what is needed here, there has been a bit of a dearth of strikers but there is a fresh batch of young ones coming through such as Orban, Wahi and Ekitike. They aren't unknown players but the scouts would have to pay some visits to make sure they match up for whatever it is that Monchi and Emery want from their centre forward. Don't panic problem 1 and 2 is much more important to fix and 3 and 4 but they are in order of importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wict01 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Attacker, wide midfielder and right back please, urgently 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, paul514 said: I fell asleep at half time, but I read up on what has happened..... I feel some people are having a bit of a paddy about some things we already knew before today. 1. We need a defensive right back 2. We needed a wide midfielder for the McGinn/Ramsey role as the only real back up we had for that role was Buendia. 3. We could do with 1 more lights out attacking player like Diaby if we are going to play a different way. 4. Watkins is good but not Elite. What is new is now we have Mings possibly out for the rest of the season, so here is my take. We aren't spending big on a new centre back unless one of our main four leave, Pau now becomes an automatic starter and Carlos will be given more game time to prove his body is ok. Chambers should simply be kept as a forth choice. Problem number one, we need a new defensive right back, I have said previously I think we should give Man Utd the money for AWB and that solves the problem. Problem number two can be fixed by a number of people as you aren't buying a winger for this position currently like we would have in previous days. Again previously I suggested signing Sessegnon from Spurs as he offers defensive capability, attacking capability and speed, whilst being very gettable, relatively low cost and if it pays off then there is a lot of resale value. I would be surprised if you couldn't buy the two for 50m If we are out of money after that then we could deal with it, we don't want to scrimp on forwards/strikers. My take is neither Bailey or Coutinho will make it here, rather have Traore over those two. Diaby is great so you would really be looking for another. As for striker, I am happy to go with Watkins/Archer for the season. The only top striker seemingly available on the market is Vlahovic they seemingly want 60m plus for him and I doubt he wants to leave Turin for Villa park. Scouting is what is needed here, there has been a bit of a dearth of strikers but there is a fresh batch of young ones coming through such as Orban, Wahi and Ekitike. They aren't unknown players but the scouts would have to pay some visits to make sure they match up for whatever it is that Monchi and Emery want from their centre forward. Don't panic problem 1 and 2 is much more important to fix and 3 and 4 but they are in order of importance. Funnily enough, I saw an article yesterday saying AWB is "frustrated". Alot of people don't rate him, but I actually quite like him when i've seen him. Sidenote: Coutinho was actually very good when he came on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Funnily enough, I saw an article yesterday saying AWB is "frustrated". Alot of people don't rate him, but I actually quite like him when i've seen him. Sidenote: Coutinho was actually very good when he came on. AWB isn't what their manager requires so they need to get rid of one of their right backs and bring in one which has the qualities he does require. He fits us perfectly. As for Coutinho, it is just my opinion, was great and now I don't trust his body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Assuming we can only go for one (and neither go to Saudi and/or Barca somehow), Laporte for another left-footer or Foyth for the right with Carlos moving left if needed? Laporte's the better player on the whole but the ability to cover right back and knowing Emery's system already may be of real value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, the_eristic said: Assuming we can only go for one (and neither go to Saudi and/or Barca somehow), Laporte for another left-footer or Foyth for the right with Carlos moving left if needed? Laporte's the better player on the whole but the ability to cover right back and knowing Emery's system already may be of real value. Obvious answer is Foyth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Don't care who we're buying or selling or why, just do what needs to be done whatever that is, then get the window shut, and try and get some positive results. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Funnily enough, I saw an article yesterday saying AWB is "frustrated". Alot of people don't rate him, but I actually quite like him when i've seen him. Sidenote: Coutinho was actually very good when he came on. Utd fans find him disappointing because he offers little going forward but he’s widely regarded as one of if not the best defensive right back in the league particularly in one on one situations so he’d suit the emery system perfectly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) I'd be pretty happy with Juan Foyth RB/CB Zaniolo RM/ST Ideally another ST too Edited August 12, 2023 by villan95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, villan95 said: I'd be pretty happy with Juan Foyth RB/CB Zaniolo RM/ST Ideally another ST too We need another striker. We were apparently all in on Tammy and his ACL scuppered that deal. If Watkins gets injured we are screwed. It’s hard enough even when he plays badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: We need another striker. We were apparently all in on Tammy and his ACL scuppered that deal. If Watkins gets injured we are screwed. It’s hard enough even when he plays badly. Yeah I'm inclined to agree, especially as Archer doesn't seem trusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Good quote this is think: 'Newcastle are a chain of strong links, both in the starting 11, and on the bench. Villa have eight or nine strong links, but two or three weak ones. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.' I think both clubs are incredibly similar. We got battered at St James’ last season; it’s a tough ground to go to when the fans are buoyant. But let’s not forget Dan Burn is their starting left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 We have got to strengthen… It really will be disastrous if we suffer any further injuries… But I’ve also been wondering just how much(?) stronger that first team is out there than it was last season? No doubt we have a better squad and some key, injured players to return… But how much have we “elevated” that first 11?? Emi and Ty injuries have hit us so hard… we have to try and use that as motivation and fight for them out on that pitch… Long season ahead, one poor performance and one poor/embarrassing result certainly does not define it. Surely onwards n upwards from here. Unai will get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, AVTuco said: No use signing anyone of note really. Just cheap depth signings and wait for next year again. Wait for what? What’s to say Luiz and or kamara are here next season? If this season goes to shite I can see Emi getting a champions league move too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Good quote this is think: 'Newcastle are a chain of strong links, both in the starting 11, and on the bench. Villa have eight or nine strong links, but two or three weak ones. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.' To be fair we were missing 3 players in Ramsey, Moreno and Buendia who all played when we destroyed them at VP and then lost Mings. You take 4 starters out the Newcastle team and that chain looks different. Not saying that Newcastle haven’t got a stronger squad btw. In reality they should have having spent £500m in the last 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Watching Rollheiser YT vids was the tonic I needed tonight. He looks like Messi. Thanks VT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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