alreadyexists Posted July 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, John said: Wouldn't that just be the loan fee? I was under the impression it was permanent… but I might be wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 We've spent around £70m this window but not really sold anyone for any significant funds, Wesley and Nakamba brought in very little I suspect, but they are wages off the books and players not good enough moved on. I was hoping for a £100m+ spend this window so would be hoping for at least one more big signing. Maybe on a right back then we loan a really good attacking player like Torres. My wishlist would be: Right back - upgrade on Cash (not a young unproven player) Attacking midfielder - upgrade on Buendia, similar type of player but better and more consistent Backup goalkeeper - upgrade on Olsen Sell in priority order: Hause/Davis (weakest players in our squad, Championship calibre) Olsen Chambers Traore Coutinho We should only sell Traore and Coutinho if another attacking player is coming in, otherwise keep as they're useful squad players to have with a lot of games to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Leeroy said: We've spent around £70m this window but not really sold anyone for any significant funds, Wesley and Nakamba brought in very little I suspect, but they are wages off the books and players not good enough moved on. I was hoping for a £100m+ spend this window so would be hoping for at least one more big signing. Maybe on a right back then we loan a really good attacking player like Torres. My wishlist would be: Right back - upgrade on Cash (not a young unproven player) Attacking midfielder - upgrade on Buendia, similar type of player but better and more consistent Backup goalkeeper - upgrade on Olsen Sell in priority order: Hause/Davis (weakest players in our squad, Championship calibre) Olsen Chambers Traore Coutinho We should only sell Traore and Coutinho if another attacking player is coming in, otherwise keep as they're useful squad players to have with a lot of games to play. 70 mill is nothing these days and if it stays like that the budget wasnt as big has we hoped 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Would anyone take Adama back? No you can’t be serious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: No you can’t be serious? I didn’t present an opinion. I just asked a question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: 70 mill is nothing these days and if it stays like that the budget wasnt as big has we hoped Actually it is £80m, my maths is wrong - c. £50m on Diaby (with add ons) and c. £30m on Torres. Tielemans on a free. But yes you would be hoping for another significant signing given we have just qualified for Europe for the first time in 13 years with a manager capable of pushing us towards the top 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: Digne is not a back up, he’s an alternative. There is a difference and he’s a valuable member of the squad. He will play loads this season. We aren’t in a position yet to have two players like Dinge and Couthino on the wages they are on to be playing as alternatives. Another year or two maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Leeroy said: Actually it is £80m, my maths is wrong - c. £50m on Diaby (with add ons) and c. £30m on Torres. Tielemans on a free. But yes you would be hoping for another significant signing given we have just qualified for Europe for the first time in 13 years with a manager capable of pushing us towards the top 4. the only other thing is if emery doesnt think we need to spend that much and save for future windows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Leeroy said: We've spent around £70m this window but not really sold anyone for any significant funds, Wesley and Nakamba brought in very little I suspect, but they are wages off the books and players not good enough moved on. I was hoping for a £100m+ spend this window so would be hoping for at least one more big signing. Maybe on a right back then we loan a really good attacking player like Torres. My wishlist would be: Right back - upgrade on Cash (not a young unproven player) Attacking midfielder - upgrade on Buendia, similar type of player but better and more consistent Backup goalkeeper - upgrade on Olsen Sell in priority order: Hause/Davis (weakest players in our squad, Championship calibre) Olsen Chambers Traore Coutinho We should only sell Traore and Coutinho if another attacking player is coming in, otherwise keep as they're useful squad players to have with a lot of games to play. I didn't expect that we would. Anyone that we would get any real money for, we don't want to see go. I wouldn't be desperate to sell the third or last on your list and would add another forward to your wish list, in the hope that we could spend up to another £70m to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: No you can’t be serious? 6 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I didn’t present an opinion. I just asked a question. Actually seen it suggested today, and it's actually something i've thought of, but never wanted to say out loud. lol On a very low fee, i feel there is a high potential upside, even as a squad player. Rapid and built like a tank, who is to tell is, with the right coaching, and good players around him, he couldn't make useful impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, John said: I didn't expect that we would. Anyone that we would get any real money for, we don't want to see go. I wouldn't be desperate to sell the third or last on your list and would add another forward to your wish list, in the hope that we could spend up to another £70m to do so. Think that would be optimistic but I agree with you. Certainly if both Traore and Coutinho go then two new forward players should really be coming in with the amount of games next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Would anyone take Adama back? To Spain, yes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: 70 mill is nothing these days and if it stays like that the budget wasnt as big has we hoped Or we simply couldn't find anyone appropriate to spend the money on. We got 3 players who can start for European Prem teams for 70 million. The only holes in our squad depth are really RB, Backup GK and ST (and that may be covered by Duran and Archer) as well as maybe a wing position. Like who else do we really need to sign. We can save what's left in the transfer kitty for January when more pressing needs become obvious or for even next year. You have to remember it's not just about spending money for rhe sake of spending money, it's about extracting value. If we spent 60 million on goncalves imo that would be a waste of money, we were interested in at about 40 mil but 50% more? No way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: 70 mill is nothing these days and if it stays like that the budget wasnt as big has we hoped Spending money ≠ success See Chelsea 2022/23 if you want proof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 34 minutes ago, Leeroy said: We've spent around £70m this window but not really sold anyone for any significant funds, Wesley and Nakamba brought in very little I suspect, but they are wages off the books and players not good enough moved on. I was hoping for a £100m+ spend this window so would be hoping for at least one more big signing. Maybe on a right back then we loan a really good attacking player like Torres. My wishlist would be: Right back - upgrade on Cash (not a young unproven player) Attacking midfielder - upgrade on Buendia, similar type of player but better and more consistent Backup goalkeeper - upgrade on Olsen Sell in priority order: Hause/Davis (weakest players in our squad, Championship calibre) Olsen Chambers Traore Coutinho We should only sell Traore and Coutinho if another attacking player is coming in, otherwise keep as they're useful squad players to have with a lot of games to play. I definitely wouldn't sell Chambers. 5th choice CB, 3rd or 4th choice RB (and if Konsa is playing rb that bumps him up the CB pecking order), and 4th choice CDM. If we do decently in every competition we basically play 60 games in 200 days (when factoring in the international breaks). We need players who can come in to start if necessary even as 4th choice because 2 injuries and then a quick turnaround between games means we need to rotate. Chambers covers 3 positions at a premier league standard. Moving him on would cost us more than we'd gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 We still need 2 to 3 quality signings for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, Leeroy said: Actually it is £80m, my maths is wrong - c. £50m on Diaby (with add ons) and c. £30m on Torres. Tielemans on a free. But yes you would be hoping for another significant signing given we have just qualified for Europe for the first time in 13 years with a manager capable of pushing us towards the top 4. Based on Ornsteins reporting it's more like 63 in base fees, 13 in add ons, and whatever the signings bonuses are. So probably like 10 mil for the 3. But generally speaking it's more like 70 as of this moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: Digne is not a back up, he’s an alternative. There is a difference and he’s a valuable member of the squad. He will play loads this season. he clearly is back up. he's nowhere near as effective going forward as moreno and he's a liability in defence. if he wasn't on such high wages I'm sure emery would have moved him on and brought in a younger understudy to moreno. no one wants him on those wages so emery is doing what a good manager should and accepting him and getting behind him as much as possible. work with what you've got. guaranteed when moreno is back and fit he's first choice on the team sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, MotoMkali said: I definitely wouldn't sell Chambers. 5th choice CB, 3rd or 4th choice RB (and if Konsa is playing rb that bumps him up the CB pecking order), and 4th choice CDM. If we do decently in every competition we basically play 60 games in 200 days (when factoring in the international breaks). We need players who can come in to start if necessary even as 4th choice because 2 injuries and then a quick turnaround between games means we need to rotate. Chambers covers 3 positions at a premier league standard. Moving him on would cost us more than we'd gain. I guess he's useful to have as he covers multiple positions but I don't see him playing much unless we have a severe injury crisis and if that happens our results will definitely suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Actually seen it suggested today, and it's actually something i've thought of, but never wanted to say out loud. lol On a very low fee, i feel there is a high potential upside, even as a squad player. Rapid and built like a tank, who is to tell is, with the right coaching, and good players around him, he couldn't make useful impact? The amount of coaches who've gone "with the right coaching hed be amazing" and he's still failed. Thick as a plank of wood and whilst Emery is clearly a good coach, no point bothering with Adama 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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