Summer Transfer Window 2023

[sne]

8 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

I do have a slight worry about our wage bill 4 top signings will add £25m to our annual wage bill. I think in the coming period over next 3 years profit on player trading will be very important to add additional income. While we grow our additional income streams 

Rotation players on the salaries that Coutinho, Digne and Olsen have is not ideal.

[gwi1890]

21 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

hes a south london boy too

pretty sure he's been quite open over why he picked palace

 

 

Born to Nigerian parents , South London has one of the largest Nigerian/British communities in the UK so Imagine he’s quite immersed in his local community. I remember reading an article about him and he mentioned how he grew up playing street football at “the cage” a similar manor to how Brazilians play when young and said plenty of talented youngsters go unnoticed in these communities. If he ever leaves Palace it will be to another London club.

Edited May 14, 2023 by gwi1890

[allani]

5 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

I do have a slight worry about our wage bill 4 top signings will add £25m to our annual wage bill. I think in the coming period over next 3 years profit on player trading will be very important to add additional income. While we grow our additional income streams 

I am less worried about that.  NSWE and Purslow aren't "chancers" who will risk the whole project on a whim.  Purslow knows the FFP regulations inside out and I reckon has identified ways that V-Sports can provide opportunities (both actual benefits and exploitation of loopholes) to bring in money so we are not tied having to base our budgets entirely on European qualification.  NSWE are doing so much off the field (redevelopment, V-Sports, etc) that they are going to keep investing because they can see the gains that they will make (and are making).  We won't do a Chelsea and sign countless expensive players, throw them together and hope that it all comes out good.  Maybe we had a little wobble with SG but we've got the grown-ups in charge now.  My only slight concern is how much the USA is critical to our overall vision in terms of revenue growth and whether if we miss out on a franchise there that we're left with a hole in the longer term plan.  But I'm sure NS is already on top of that and is looking at other markets around the globe.

[Zatman]

21 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said:

Not even talking about free kicks to be honest, just someone who can lash one goalwards with purpose from outside the box in open play 

Like that time we signed Tonev

[Pez1974]

15 hours ago, IrishVilla10 said:

 

This has to be garbage. Barca desperately need to shift players - why would they agree a blanket ban, especially given their statement that they cannot compete with us on finances. 
Bit like us wanting to get rid of Matt Targett, but refusing to do business with Newcastle!

[PerryBarrPet]

12 minutes ago, Pez1974 said:

This has to be garbage. Barca desperately need to shift players - why would they agree a blanket ban, especially given their statement that they cannot compete with us on finances. 
Bit like us wanting to get rid of Matt Targett, but refusing to do business with Newcastle!

This report has previously been judged, in this thread, as copium - I think this is accurate so we should ignore the report.

[QldVilla]

12 hours ago, paul514 said:

He would be good for a team who play three central midfielders

I don’t believe JWP is an upgrade on the current midfield. At best for us he is a specialist player who you could bring on when chasing the game, hoping to get a free kick within range. Yes he could start 20+ games a season, but Emery wants players who are an upgrade on the current squad.

The game could well be going that way with a free kick specialist, but can’t see him sitting on a bench for Villa or the club affording him for that role.

[Pez1974]

1 hour ago, CVByrne said:

I do have a slight worry about our wage bill 4 top signings will add £25m to our annual wage bill. I think in the coming period over next 3 years profit on player trading will be very important to add additional income. While we grow our additional income streams 

Yep, but I think the context here is huge. 

We've shifted Ings - huge earner. £6m a year if Spotrac are to be believed. Probably why we took a risk on selling our only reserve striker. 
Add the difference in prize money for finishing 7th rather than 14th - £15m additional a year.

There's some overpaid stuff in the squad - Olsen (£4m!); Digne (£8.5m - good player but can't pay that for a back up LB); Countinho (£6.5m); Dendoncker (£4.5m) - add Traore (£4m), Nakamba (£1.5m), Sanson (£2.5m); Davis (£2m); Wesley (£1.8m) - there's a lot of scope to trim the wage bill, perhaps a few will go to promoted sides, Saudi, or through contracts being up. Going to be hard to shift them all.
All the salaries are from Spotrac - but seem in line with reports. The cost of doing bad business is huge - get that right we're flying., which is what Brighton and Brentford seem to do.

Europe makes the difference too. 
Even the conference league is €3 for taking part, plus €0.5m per win - and up to €5m for winning. Do well and it's €10m+, plus the TV rights and money we make from games - you could cover your £25m here alone with a good run.
Europa league is a step up again - could be £40m all told with a run to the latter stages. 

[jacketspuds]

Let Everton spunk £40m on Ward-Prowse for some extreme Dyche ball.

We will do much better.

[Kiwivillan]

1 hour ago, Pez1974 said:

This has to be garbage. Barca desperately need to shift players - why would they agree a blanket ban, especially given their statement that they cannot compete with us on finances. 
Bit like us wanting to get rid of Matt Targett, but refusing to do business with Newcastle!

It's on Twitter though

[Steero113]

2 minutes ago, jacketspuds said:

Let Everton spunk £40m on Ward-Prowse for some extreme Dyche ball.

We will do much better.

Everton ain't spending anything like that while they spend 5 years in the championship. 

Edited May 14, 2023 by Steero113

[Kiwivillan]

Just now, Steero113 said:

Everton ain't spending anything while they spend 5 years in the championship. 

The greatest thing about this season is the possibility that 2 of 3 from Leicester Leeds and Everton are going down. I hope Forest stay up to resign 2 of those 3 to relegation

[Steero113]

1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said:

The greatest thing about this season is the possibility that 2 of 3 from Leicester Leeds and Everton are going down. I hope Forest stay up to resign 2 of those 3 to relegation

Leeds and Everton would be the dream. 

[Jono62]

3 minutes ago, Steero113 said:

Leeds and Everton would be the dream. 

Still hoping West Ham will go down.

Then try for Bowen.

[Pez1974]

23 minutes ago, Steero113 said:

Leeds and Everton would be the dream. 

Yep - Deano going to Leicester changed that for me. Didn't really care who before. 

[Hank Scorpio]

3 hours ago, allani said:

I'm not sure whether you are saying that those 3 aren't good enough or that if we sign midfielders (or anyone for that matter) then they should be upgrades on our current starting players?  I think probably the latter.  

In my view Luiz and Kamara are easily good enough for getting us to the next level (if we can keep Kamara fit to really build the partnership) and are at least as good as the teams we will be targetting next season.  McGinn in patches - but will be a fantastic player to be bringing on for the last 30 and actually not a big drop-off when we have suspensions (I'd include JJ and Buendia as really strong options off the bench too).  I think we will see at least one more midfielder signed over the summer and that having been the weak link for a while, midfield will be one of our strongest units next season (injuries permitting).  But yeah for me JWP isn't going to strengthen our starting quartet so wouldn't be on my list of targets.

The latter. They are all good. To improve though you invest correctly and force your best players to compete for their role, then you reach the next level.

[allani]

5 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

The latter. They are all good. To improve though you invest correctly and force your best players to compete for their role, then you reach the next level.

100% agreed.  If we aren't signing better players than the starting XI then those new players need to be young potential stars who the incumbants know will be snapping at their heels for starting spots within a few short months.  No more signing a utility back-up who can fill a hole in an emergency (unless they promise to do a Forever Young and become awesome again).

[striker]

Find it absolutely amazing that Prowse is viewed on here as a utility or squad player.   He’s exactly what Emery loves. Great technical ability, keeps possession and scores goals.

He would be an upgrade on what Villa currently have in midfield!

[allani]

1 hour ago, Pez1974 said:

Yep, but I think the context here is huge. 

We've shifted Ings - huge earner. £6m a year if Spotrac are to be believed. Probably why we took a risk on selling our only reserve striker. 
Add the difference in prize money for finishing 7th rather than 14th - £15m additional a year.

There's some overpaid stuff in the squad - Olsen (£4m!); Digne (£8.5m - good player but can't pay that for a back up LB); Countinho (£6.5m); Dendoncker (£4.5m) - add Traore (£4m), Nakamba (£1.5m), Sanson (£2.5m); Davis (£2m); Wesley (£1.8m) - there's a lot of scope to trim the wage bill, perhaps a few will go to promoted sides, Saudi, or through contracts being up. Going to be hard to shift them all.
All the salaries are from Spotrac - but seem in line with reports. The cost of doing bad business is huge - get that right we're flying., which is what Brighton and Brentford seem to do.

Europe makes the difference too. 
Even the conference league is €3 for taking part, plus €0.5m per win - and up to €5m for winning. Do well and it's €10m+, plus the TV rights and money we make from games - you could cover your £25m here alone with a good run.
Europa league is a step up again - could be £40m all told with a run to the latter stages. 

NSWE will also make sure that we are not 100% dependent on Europe with regards to revenue in terms of hitting FFP.

[sne]

2 minutes ago, striker said:

Find it absolutely amazing that Prowse is viewed on here as a utility or squad player.   He’s exactly what Emery loves. Great technical ability, keeps possession and scores goals.

He would be an upgrade on what Villa currently have in midfield!

In which role?