villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, penguin said: He’s Xhaka level for me. If he’s not English but from Scandinavia etc. then no one gives much of a shite about him. Certainly nowhere near a £100m player. Said many times so has Zatman he's a throw back DMC physical and puts himself about hes definitely not a modern pivot in a possession hungry team, his movement and use of space when we have the ball is shite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 If we go out tonight then Safegate needs to get his coat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Best England have played n years and we’re losing Yep. Probably our best competition performance under Southgate this. Still got Henderson, Foden well off it as well. Henderson off now for Grealish. Put Foden into midfield. If he continues to stink it out, put Maddison on for him after 10 mins, not 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 It doesn’t feel like this is over. Usually loads of drama in these England games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: As a midfielder he commits the cardinal sin for me of not playing on the half turn. He gets the ball and unless he's in acres of space his first inclination is to pass backwards or sideways. In a few years once his pace starts to go a little bit he'll fall off hard unless he develops this aspect of the game. Pace, Rice ain't got no pace, you obviously not seen him run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just seen Southgate happy clapping, don't worry we will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Agree he's not the finished article but far better than Sterling and Saka. To be fair yo him sterling's record for England is decent Foden is a better footballer but done nothing for England imo maybe expecting too much but I don't see the lightning in a bottle that he's made out to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: If we go out tonight then Safegate needs to get his coat. Fa have already said they want him to stay on. Just up to Southgate if he wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Tomaszk said: Yep. Probably our best competition performance under Southgate this. Still got Henderson, Foden well off it as well. Henderson off now for Grealish. Put Foden into midfield. If he continues to stink it out, put Maddison on for him after 10 mins, not 30. We’ve looked shaky at the back. Overwhelmed in the middle and created no clear cut chances. We haven’t been terrible of course but I fail to see this great performance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I think we’ll equalise around 80 mins then we’ll see 30mins of action less extra time, followed by the joy of penalties (which of course we will easily win). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: To be fair yo him sterling's record for England is decent Foden is a better footballer but done nothing for England imo maybe expecting too much but I don't see the lightning in a bottle that he's made out to be It's one of them ain't it, could he do it on a cold night for Stoke, what he does at City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: You've gone too far back. I don't remember any friendlies, rarely watch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I’d get one of Foden or Saka off soon, neither doing too well and Saka getting bullied. Although normally when I say stuff like this they go on to score within minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Grealish has been abysmal so far, cares too much about his hair and shinpads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: It's one of them ain't it, could he do it on a cold night for Stoke, what he does at City. I honestly don't watch enough to city yo know anymore if he is the next Gerrard / lampard / Scholes I can see he's a good player but wouldn't say I've even seen him show more than grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Best England have played n years and we’re losing If that's the best Englang have played in years, we must have been dreadful for all those years. We're getting into great positions, but then we're far too indecisive. We need to be more quicker with the ball , France are getting too much time in defence to see what's in front of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I hate how much we analyse such opposition and Safegate decides it's all about them Morocco are smashing it as they are - we don't care who the opposition is, this is who we are. They have an identity. About time we had one and a manager brave enough to give us one. It's working brilliantly in cricket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, It's Your Round said: I think we’ll equalise around 80 mins then we’ll see 30mins of action less extra time, followed by the joy of penalties (which of course we will easily win). Yeah that’s what we think in our house too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Really? we haven’t created anything of note. Maguire has booted the ball out several times. The France goal should have been saveable. We don’t usually create anything it’s a low bar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: If that's the best Englang have played in years, we must have been dreadful for all those years. We're getting into great positions, but then we're far too indecisive. We need to be more quicker with the ball , France are getting too much time in defence to see what's in front of them. Yes that’s England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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