JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, useless said: I don't think we will be interested in a manager like Frank or Potter, it will be someone who knows how to ball with Brazillian and French internationals. Pochettino the obvious choice. Sam Alardyce has managed Youri Djorkaeff, Mario Jardel and Bernard Mendy .... I'm just saying..... Edited August 21, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Sam Alardyce has managed Youri Djorkaeff, Mario Jardel and Bernard Mendy .... I'm just saying..... Bring him in! Slight upgrade from the at I suggested. Big Sam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Rodgers would be a massive upgrade on Gerrard that's for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Rodger's arrival seems to have an air of inevitability about it, it seems to suit in a lot of ways, high profile manager, but also genuinely a good one too and proven at a level we're trying to get to, would be seen as an upgrade not just on Gerrard but on all our recent managers, so would be seen as a step in the right direction for the club, not just another sideways move. Other than Pochettino would be about the least risky appointment we could make, there's also the Rodgers and Coutinho connection... Purslow Edens Sawiris I'm pretty sure we were heavily linked with Rodgers when NSWE first came in as well, but he was out of our reach at the time because of still being a championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, duke313 said: We’ll probably go for someone like Poch, not get him and end up with Sean Dyche. As underwhelming as that would be, Dyche would be head and shoulders above Gerrard tactically. Wasn't he like the last of the long ball merchants in the PL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 No to Rodgers please - he has a clear ceiling and is insufferable. If we sack Gerrard then Poch it is IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Anything11 said: No to Rodgers please - he has a clear ceiling and is insufferable. If we sack Gerrard then Poch it is IMO. Agree on Rodgers but Pochettino wouldn't look at us... It's Potter, has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, macandally said: Arteta had a plan, Gerrard has no plan, we are not comparing apples with apples They might be playing like they haven't got one....but thats different from him not having one. What if he has one, but they are not adhering to it for reasons, unbeknown to us. You are just jumping to conclusions, without knowing for certain. Look ,the football is turgid, but making speculative allegations, doesn't help either. If the Hierarchy are in Doubt about his ability, they will pull the plug.....until then we just have to hope he turns it around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Agree on Rodgers but Pochettino wouldn't look at us... It's Potter, has to be. Potter is not leaving a Brighton side that is flying to save our bacon. Rodgers though is seemingly keen to leave Leicester… I can definitely see that one happening if the timings align…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Leicester fans I know despise Rogers. Say he is just way too negative and always makes terrible subs. They often take the lead in games then he messes up by trying to sit on it and making poor changes. How true that is I wouldn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Anything11 said: No to Rodgers please - he has a clear ceiling and is insufferable. If we sack Gerrard then Poch it is IMO. Whatever his ceiling is, we've got a long way to go before we reach it. I would love two 5th place finishes, an FA Cup and a European semifinal in 3 years. Yes please. If we reach this ceiling, we can assess then. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Thug said: This appointment has to be the most pathetic bit of business ever. Why on earth would you break the bank appointing Gerrard when there were plenty of people available with good track records in the premier league. First trying his best to get Henry, and then busting the bank for Gerrard. Clearly has no idea about how to appoint a manager. FFS we don’t need expensive experiments. We need a manager with a proven track record. Purslow has a lot to answer for. Only one reason: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Tomaszk said: I agree. It's astonishing Gerrard could do this badly. We were an incredibly stable club with fixtures in many key positions. Top training ground, the best backing outside the top 6 in richest league in the world. This could already be the end of his career. How can anyone see what he's done here and think yep, he can build on that here. Which are just a couple of reasons why I believe the job would genuinely appeal to someone like Poch. Everything is in place and we have the resources to become a good PL side, competing nearer the top end of that table rather than languishing bear the bottom. There is so much appeal about Aston Villa FC. Frankly, it’s embarrassing and shameful that considering our superior resources, including facilities, finances and so on, backing and owners, that we have been doing so poorly and being surpassed/outshone by other teams/clubs and are so lost and aimless under this utterly incompetent arsehole of a “manager”. We just need to sort out the “on the pitch” aspect, that’s where we are failing. A proper manager and coaching team will make us fly… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, a-k said: Sack Gerrard and bring back Delaney 6 hours ago, daft said: Now, let's not get extreme here. But we MUST make all effort to understand what made the new man successful. It's imperative. Bring back this guy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: When was he not welcomed? At Villa Park? After his first few games that were all wins? Read my post again. I never said he wasn't welcomed, I actually said he was welcomed, but for a particular reason. 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: What is the approach he offered that differs from Smith (who was correctly dismissed)? Being shit? Smith's approach wasn't working, everyone, even those like myself, who were massive fans of his. SGs style and set up at Rangers was different, it isn't working out, but it offered a different approach modelled on Liverpool. 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Less of an issue as they are capable managers. Gerrard is not and wasn't when he was appointed. He was a capable manager / coach. It hasn't worked out, but it doesn't make him, shit, clueless or a clown. All words used ( not necessarily by you), to describe him on this forum. It's these extreme reactions which make the discussions pointless. It's the same with some of the players. There can be shades of grey. 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: He'd had some time at one of the better teams in Scotland and eventually won one title when the other side blew up. So he won then? 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: If we hired Pocc, it wouldn't be here's a big name. It would be here's a top manager. I agree, but there's no way a Champions League manager is coming to a club who haven't played in Europe in the last 2 decades. Fwiw, I'm not a fan of SG. I see no pattern/ plan. I think the football is negative and boring to watch. I think unless there's massive recruitment, or a change in tactics, we are massively in trouble this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted August 22, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, danceoftheshamen said: Leicester fans I know despise Rogers. Say he is just way too negative and always makes terrible subs. They often take the lead in games then he messes up by trying to sit on it and making poor changes. How true that is I wouldn't know. Leicester fans desperately want to see the back of Rodgers !! I would not wish him on you !! He is a B.S specialist who takes no responsibility . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: Read my post again. I never said he wasn't welcomed, I actually said he was welcomed, but for a particular reason. Smith's approach wasn't working, everyone, even those like myself, who were massive fans of his. SGs style and set up at Rangers was different, it isn't working out, but it offered a different approach modelled on Liverpool. He was a capable manager / coach. It hasn't worked out, but it doesn't make him, shit, clueless or a clown. All words used ( not necessarily by you), to describe him on this forum. It's these extreme reactions which make the discussions pointless. It's the same with some of the players. There can be shades of grey. So he won then? I agree, but there's no way a Champions League manager is coming to a club who haven't played in Europe in the last 2 decades. Fwiw, I'm not a fan of SG. I see no pattern/ plan. I think the football is negative and boring to watch. I think unless there's massive recruitment, or a change in tactics, we are massively in trouble this year. Everyone’s favorite Simon Jordan thinks Poch could end up at Villa, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Everyone’s favorite Simon Jordan thinks Poch could end up at Villa, lol. Would love it but can't see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Lucien Favre was a popular name on here last autumn...could he be lured away from Nice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just needs to be the right name for us as a club right now. A good manager isn't going to have success at every club, Pocchettino is hates by PSG fans. Ancelotti isn't well regarded by Everton fans yet went back to Madrid and won the Champions League. We need a manager who trusts and pushes youth. Who had the courage to play them in any scenario. A manager who isn't afraid to build a philosophy here and push it in every match, even if it's against Man City and they end up demolishing us. The likes of Potter and Howe do this and it reaps the rewards long term. If we do get rid of Gerrard and replace him with someone who we are looking for as a fast fix I do not think it's going to have any benefit for this football club long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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