Rds1983 Posted October 2, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 2, 2022 I'm strangely glad about Haaland being captained by almost everyone. It's as close to them removing the captain chip and making the game like it should be as we're going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I got 61 points, 40 of them from Haaland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (Former) leader of my mini-league doesn’t have Haaland or Foden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 2, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 2, 2022 I’m up to 11th in the league, this is my best year for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Acknowledge me as your current FPL king. YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 14 hours ago, Rds1983 said: I'm strangely glad about Haaland being captained by almost everyone. It's as close to them removing the captain chip and making the game like it should be as we're going to get. That’s interesting, you’re the first person I’ve heard say they don’t like the captain chip. I’m not too fussed about the capt thing personally most adds an extra layer of strategy (luck!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Pissflaps said: Acknowledge me as your current FPL king. YES! Are you top of the league Pissflaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: That’s interesting, you’re the first person I’ve heard say they don’t like the captain chip. I’m not too fussed about the capt thing personally most adds an extra layer of strategy (luck!) I don't like it either. I like it in theory, but I hate that with Effective Ownership you can end up not wanting a player you own to do well. If you hadn't captained Haaland yesterday then him doing well is a negative for your team. Which feels fundamentally wrong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I don't like it either. I like it in theory, but I hate that with Effective Ownership you can end up not wanting a player you own to do well. If you hadn't captained Haaland yesterday then him doing well is a negative for your team. Which feels fundamentally wrong I suppose… but you could’ve captained him you just chose not to, so if you accept there is a potential advantage to not captaining him (or anyone else) then you have to accept there is also a potential disadvantage too. It couldn’t work if there was no risk. I see what you mean though, it does seem perverse to wish a player you have to do worse than another you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted October 3, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, alreadyexists said: I suppose… but you could’ve captained him you just chose not to, so if you accept there is a potential advantage to not captaining him (or anyone else) then you have to accept there is also a potential disadvantage too. It couldn’t work if there was no risk. I see what you mean though, it does seem perverse to wish a player you have to do worse than another you have. It's been discussed in this thread several times and you see it pop up on twitter or reddit every now and again. As @Stevo985 says it leads to situations where you actively want one of your own players to not perform. To me that goes against the fundamental elements of the game. You should want all 11 of your players to do great as it's a team game, not a game of picking one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I suppose… but you could’ve captained him you just chose not to, so if you accept there is a potential advantage to not captaining him (or anyone else) then you have to accept there is also a potential disadvantage too. It couldn’t work if there was no risk. I see what you mean though, it does seem perverse to wish a player you have to do worse than another you have. I know that, but most people will always have two premium players, and a lot of the time both of those premiums will be above 100% ownership. So regardless of who you captained, you'll have someone else in your team you don't want to do well. Which I don't like. Obviously this season it'll end up being a bit different because Haaland is basically a permacaptain. But that was the original point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 Fair enough I don’t mind the captain though personally. I’ve always found the way the money gain/loss thing works more frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Are you top of the league Pissflaps? Yup will enjoy it while it lasts ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted October 3, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Fair enough I don’t mind the captain though personally. I’ve always found the way the money gain/loss thing works more frustrating. That is frustrating but it's there to stop people abusing it when they wildcard over international breaks. You could flip back and forth on loads of players just as they rise (tools now predict this) and considerably increase your team value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: That is frustrating but it's there to stop people abusing it when they wildcard over international breaks. You could flip back and forth on loads of players just as they rise (tools now predict this) and considerably increase your team value. Ah right, so the rules are to prevent people playing the system and making tonnes of money. That is fair I suppose then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 i'm on the fence with the captaincy thing. i'd probably lean more towards removing it given the choice only because it adds to the weekly headache. people say it means you wish your players to perform poorly. that's not the case really is it. you just want them to score less than your captain. if i was choosing between salah or haaland for captain this week, and salah had scored 2 vs haaland's 3, i'm still happy that salah got a good return for me as well as being happy that i chose the right captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Having a fairly average/poor start to this season. Hoping that by holding the Wildcard it will pay off for me in a few weeks time, as most seem to have used theirs already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i'm on the fence with the captaincy thing. i'd probably lean more towards removing it given the choice only because it adds to the weekly headache. people say it means you wish your players to perform poorly. that's not the case really is it. you just want them to score less than your captain. if i was choosing between salah or haaland for captain this week, and salah had scored 2 vs haaland's 3, i'm still happy that salah got a good return for me as well as being happy that i chose the right captain Nope, not if you care about your overall rank. If I own a player who has an EO of more than 100% and he isn't my captain, I want him to score as little as possible. Even in your minileagues, if a competitor has that player as captain then anything he scores works against you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Nope, not if you care about your overall rank. If I own a player who has an EO of more than 100% and he isn't my captain, I want him to score as little as possible. Even in your minileagues, if a competitor has that player as captain then anything he scores works against you but if the captain you choose consistently is the highest scorer of the potential captains your overall rank will continue to rise? i get where you're coming from, i do. i guess from my perspective it's still a game and therefore should be about enjoyment so i'm just happy when a player returns. maybe as the season goes on if i'm looking at a half decent ranking i might start to think differently GW11 will be interesting anyway...i've got kane, mitro, and haaland with the view to also bringing salah back around then so it's going to be right head scratcher who to captain that week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, tomav84 said: but if the captain you choose consistently is the highest scorer of the potential captains your overall rank will continue to rise? Well yes of course. But your rank would have risen more if the player you didn't captain blanked (assuming their EO was over 100%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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