bobzy Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: You'll be as surprised as I was then to discover that this is only the fifth time it's happened since 2000 and more importantly that it didn't happen at all until 2014-15. City were only bought by the Abu Dhabi group in 2008. It's amazing how quickly we get used to thinking something is just how things are - the six teams that wanted to destroy the league have finished in the top six spots and won both of the domestic cup competitions for five of the last eight years - it's killing football. Next year, it falls on us, on Newcastle, on West Ham and maybe Leicester to try to do something about it before the b****rds change the rules and the chance is gone forever. I'm guessing the variance is basically on who finishes 5th or 6th then? Since 2000: FA Cup (not won by "big 6"): Portsmouth (2008), Wigan (2013) League Cup (not won by "big 6"): Leicester (2000), Blackburn (2002), Middlesbrough (2004), Birmingham (2011), Swansea (2013) Which means that, out of 44 cup finals, one of the "big 6" has only failed to win on 7 occasions - and 2013 saw 2 of those. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Flares thrown at villa park the other night - plus trouble before the game. Then booing prince William & the national anthem yesterday and more flares... Liverpool fans clearing seen drinking alcohol in the seats (which I thought was illegal) All this because they want to be seen to be a bit different. Ah but there loveable scousers - it's just they were in the 80s - they think the rules don't apply to them....and it didn't end well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 11 hours ago, theboyangel said: Awesome red card! Better than this one from Gideon Mensah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 hours ago, bobzy said: I'm guessing the variance is basically on who finishes 5th or 6th then? Since 2000: FA Cup (not won by "big 6"): Portsmouth (2008), Wigan (2013) League Cup (not won by "big 6"): Leicester (2000), Blackburn (2002), Middlesbrough (2004), Birmingham (2011), Swansea (2013) Which means that, out of 44 cup finals, one of the "big 6" has only failed to win on 7 occasions - and 2013 saw 2 of those. FA Cup Leicester 2021. It's not even split amongst them as Spurs have won Jack shit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Those league cup winners are a strange mix of teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Burnley look to be banking on Leeds not getting another point. Good bet to bank on though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Spurs are gonna Spurs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 That's a penalty for me, not sure why the Burnley's players' hand is where it is. Stupid really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 If that wasn't a handball I don't know what is. Clear pen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Can’t see Burnley getting anything now out of this. They may as well go for it second half though because goal difference doesn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Ben Mee isn't happy, which makes me very happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Those decisions always go to the big clubs. Yes his arm was out buit he was so close he had no time to get it out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, PaulC said: Those decisions always go to the big clubs. Yes his arm was out buit he was so close he had no time to get it out of the way. Not sure I agree, had more than enough time to move his arms out of the way but for some reason kept them wideout. Probably instinctive but still handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, PaulC said: Those decisions always go to the big clubs. Yes his arm was out buit he was so close he had no time to get it out of the way. That's not the rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 His arm is also half out because he's trying to balance from the Spurs player pulling him in the box. I can understand if your arm is out and you block a shot/cross but the ball is just blasted up in the air from 1 yard away. I want Spurs to win but that's just a ridiculous rule IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, AndyM3000 said: His arm is also half out because he's trying to balance from the Spurs player pulling him in the box. See that kind of then is the wording of the rule, his arm isnt necessarily in an unnatural position But the distance away from the ball and the ability to pull his arm back in isn't in the rule, it shouldn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 That's a penalty. If you can't keep up with the attacker without keeping control of your arms, then you're at risk of giving away a penalty like that. I'd expect it if it happened while we were attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Both sides are getting hot-headed here. Could see a possible red coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Barnes smashes the beans on toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 We could have done with Bentancur. Think he’s looked class every time I watch Spuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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