OutByEaster? Posted May 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, paul514 said: Sky as in UK Sky News. Well, that's at least made me have a bit of a chuckle before bed. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, OutByEaster? said: Well, that's at least made me have a bit of a chuckle before bed. Glad to be of service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, paul514 said: Sky, Yes, Nick Robinson, maybe..... noth the others they are right wing. Murdoch’s Sky? Genuinely never heard them described as a leftist organ before. The Nick Robinson I was referring to was BBC’s political correspondent Nick Robinson, the one that was President of the Young Conservatives. I’m not sure which Nick you were thinking of? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, chrisp65 said: Murdoch’s Sky? Genuinely never heard them described as a leftist organ before. The Nick Robinson I was referring to was BBC’s political correspondent Nick Robinson, the one that was President of the Young Conservatives. I’m not sure which Nick you were thinking of? Same Nick, what someone did in their youth doesn't mean they believe the same things in their later years. Andrew Marr was a raving communist in his youth, I don't think he holds the same views today. If Murdoch still owns UK Sky news then yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2022 Murdoch doesn’t own Sky News.It’s owned by Comcast so its a sister channel to NBC and Euronews 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Not the best place to demonstrate it, but this suggests that the Labour / LD non-agression could change a few of the closer races... Lib Dems stood last time, but for "some reason" chose not to this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 59 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Not the best place to demonstrate it, but this suggests that the Labour / LD non-agression could change a few of the closer races... Lib Dems stood last time, but for "some reason" chose not to this time. What that shows if replicated is that even with the bad circumstances of 2022 and the lib dems not standing labour stand no chance of winning the next election..... It is however from the usual tiny turn out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 4 hours ago, paul514 said: What that shows if replicated is that even with the bad circumstances of 2022 and the lib dems not standing labour stand no chance of winning the next election..... It is however from the usual tiny turn out.... It's apparent from a single result that Labour won, that come general election, based on that single result, that Labour won, Labour would lose a general election? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, paul514 said: What that shows if replicated is that even with the bad circumstances of 2022 and the lib dems not standing labour stand no chance of winning the next election..... It is however from the usual tiny turn out.... I presume you are suggesting that a +3.8% increase in Labours vote replicated across the UK wouldn’t be enough to win the election????? That’s true. But also a flawed piece of analysis. If you already hold a high percentage of the vote in a seat you will find it harder to increase that percentage than parties with a lower percentage. At its simplest - a party with a 99% share of the vote can only improve by 1%. You can’t say that it’s been a disaster because they “only” improved by 1%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) Barnet going labour instead of conservative. Barnet actually is a nice area and one of the few councils that was run well. Suprised that changed over Edited May 6, 2022 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2022 Labour won Wandsworth for the first time since 1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Labour take Westminster which has been Tory since it's creation in 1964. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) Its not really a suprise though as london is generally a labour city. Conservatives deserve this as they have been shite under johnson. Should be a wakeup call that people have had enough of the lies and scandals Edited May 6, 2022 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 It’s not looking good for the Tories so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Its not really a suprise though as london is generally a labour city. Yes but Wandsworth and Westminster have been Tory for a long time. Most voters in those councils will never have experienced a Labour administration. Those wins for Labour are hugely significant. Because of the way London councils elect all their seats in one go every 4 years and the rest of the country is voting on seats from 2018 (where Labour did well anyway) London was always going to be where the shocks were and for the Tories to lose its two flagship London councils is a significant moment you have to feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Genie said: It’s not looking good for the Tories so far That isn't remotely correct. Labour are way higher than +38. As I type they are +91 and have been +70 since I woke up at 6am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2022 Another interesting result is Hull, where the LibDems won the council from Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: That isn't remotely correct. Labour are way higher than +38. As I type they are +91 and have been +70 since I woke up at 6am It’s from the BBC live ticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, bickster said: That isn't remotely correct. Labour are way higher than +38. As I type they are +91 and have been +70 since I woke up at 6am The BBC are still reporting that, and are downplaying Labour gains - is it that they haven't updated their figures yet? Where are the higher numbers reported? Hopefully at some point someone wins an election and decides to return the BBC their freedom and integrity. Looks about what we expected doesn't it? Labour making modest gains from an already strong starting point and the voters letting Boris know exactly what they think of him by abandoning the Tories just about everywhere. A good night for the Greens which is nice to see and a good night for the Lib Dems - which for me is always a surprise, I have no idea who votes for the Lib Dems or why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: It’s from the BBC live ticker. Sky news slightly higher but nothing like the figure you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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