Zatman Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Nah not for me, that squad is too talented for that shit, when he first started and he was chasing down real Madrid and Barca then yeah maybe but once he's got to the top he should have started to adapt and play better football, he hasn't and they're arguably getting worse for it He did actually try in fairness by signing Felix, Lemar, De Paul etc. but they arent the same team without the aggression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 10 hours ago, maqroll said: Hold me back, hold me back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Hold me back, hold me back! Not sure if Vrsjalko spits at the City side or he was swinging a headbutt from about 8 feet away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Kyle Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Atletico are an interesting case and it makes me wonder whether playing their particular way is the only possible way of breaking the duopoly of Real and Barce, in the title-race. As Brian Clough used to say, if you try and out-play Liverpool at football you are going to lose, and the Forest championship side of 77/78 definitely relied on a defensive counter-attacking style, in which his team only conceded 24 goals, seven points ahead of Liverpool. In the case of Atletico, the signing of Felix for £113m was crucial to their title-winning campaign. I was left with the question as to whether they were actually as violent as they seemed, or did they just create the impression that GBH was about to breakout, and it is just a very controlled way of giving the impression that it might, by way of intimidation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: Atletico are an interesting case and it makes me wonder whether playing their particular way is the only possible way of breaking the duopoly of Real and Barce, in the title-race. As Brian Clough used to say, if you try and out-play Liverpool at football you are going to lose, and the Forest championship side of 77/78 definitely relied on a defensive counter-attacking style, in which his team only conceded 24 goals, seven points ahead of Liverpool. In the case of Atletico, the signing of Felix for £113m was crucial to their title-winning campaign. I was left with the question as to whether they were actually as violent as they seemed, or did they just create the impression that GBH was about to breakout, and it is just a very controlled way of giving the impression that it might, by way of intimidation? The key player for their title win was Suarez, Felix has ultimately disappointed, massively overpaid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: The key player for their title win was Suarez, Felix has ultimately disappointed, massively overpaid for him. His stats are not that impressive, unless you take account of his age (22). One of the questions I asked myself, was how he compared with Grealish's return on his £100m fee. I can't say he impressed in either leg of the tie, but his pace seems to offer Atletico an out-ball - a bit like Watkins. Edit: Suarez's, one goal in two, is world-class. Edited April 14, 2022 by MakemineVanilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: Edit: Suarez's, one goal in two, is world-class. His European record is dreadful though. He didnt score a goal in open play in Europe for Atletico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, villa89 said: I'd have a very hard time supporting my team if he was the manager. Petulant ******* is all he is and his teams play eye wateringly boring thugball. I'm just saying I'd rather my team try/do whatever it takes to win. Simeone drills that mentality into his squads. I guess it's the South American way, especially those from favelas/slums/downtrodden areas (Suarez being the prime example). They have to fight (or bite) and claw and cheat for everything they can get in life and it translates onto the pitch. Art imitates life. Growing up dirt poor, that resonates with me, so it's the style I like from football teams/players. I get it's not for everybody though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Mr_Dogg said: The key player for their title win was Suarez, Felix has ultimately disappointed, massively overpaid for him. Much the opposite this season, Felix has been in top form while Suarez often has been benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Great game with Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Leicester, great performance, great come back. Just watched them play really well against PSV…heart and spirit! shit, we play them next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Leicester, great performance, great come back. Just watched them play really well against PSV…heart and spirit! shit, we play them next Yep, but they have another 2 games before they play us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 14, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2022 Fofana is a wonderful young player - they'll do well to hold on to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Just now, OutByEaster? said: Fofana is a wonderful young player - they'll do well to hold on to him. They'd be 2 or 3 places higher in the league if he hadn't got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Yep, but they have another 2 games before they play us. Last time we had a break we were poor after it. Glad we have a behind closed doors game against Brentford to keep us ticking over on the weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2022 I feel like I don't understand the handball rule at all anymore. I didn't think the Alonso goal was handball or the goal that has just been disallowed in the Rangers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2022 Also why has the player who just gave away a penalty been sent off? I thought it was yellow cos of double jeopardy?! I don't understand football at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Got the feeling West Ham going to win europa...beating Sevilla and Lyon back to back would be very impressive and if Barcelona go out there isn't much left in competition that will scare them although guess Leipzig will still be favourites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Just now, VillaChris said: Got the feeling West Ham going to win europa...beating Sevilla and Lyon back to back would be very impressive and if Barcelona go out there isn't much left in competition that will scare them although guess Leipzig will still be favourites. Yes thoroughly deserved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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