nick76 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Feidhlim said: Now wait for everyone on VT to name all the successful French midfielders over the years. This will be fun. Also, Cantona and Kante Henry, Pires and the rest of the french contingent at Arsenal including the Palace manager Edited July 25, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, tinker said: I hope your right , French midfielders tend to struggle in the Premier League. I’ll go as far as saying there’s no one better we could have signed for the job 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, tinker said: Any forward is going to miss Grealish his assists figures were unbelievable. As for Ings he's a proven premier League striker, the problem for our forwards is chance creation a severe lack of it. Hopefully the summer rest has allowed the coaches to sort this issue out. Us dropping Beundia from starting our last game isn't a great start. It's the finishing what's losing us points/games, not the creation. We have Buendia, Coutinho, an others to help Watkin's. I'm all for giving Ing's a good run of games, if he's lost it, Gerrard has some serious thinking to do in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: It's the finishing what's losing us points/games, not the creation. We have Buendia, Coutinho, an others to help Watkin's. I'm all for giving Ing's a good run of games, if he's lost it, Gerrard has some serious thinking to do in January. He hasn’t lost it. It’s in his pocket. Boss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: He hasn’t lost it. It’s in his pocket. Boss. Ing's is the man I would depend on for next seasons goals. Use Watkin's if he needs a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Zatman said: problem is the squad is already full up for the season but also it comes a time and place when the owners will demand some coaching to be done so these players improve. Cant just keep throwing money at a problem when we have allegedly a highly rated coaching team Ings especially and Watkins didnt become goal shy overnight and we are paying them big money, before Coutinho and Digne joined Ings was our highest paid player This is exactly right IMO. Neither player is bad; in fact, they played well together in some games. The issue is in selecting the right formation from a range of attacking options, and making sure everyone can do a good job when called on. That requires training, not yet another striker for large money who may or may not come good. It's also worth stressing that signing another striker would pretty much end Archer's route to the first team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just done that poll on Birmingham mail of who to keep and sell and Traore is the player who is comfortably bottom of the list people want to keep (below Sanson, Guilbert, Luiz and Hause) Is this a recency bias thing or has he stated he wants a new challenge? What am I missing, why do so many want him sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: It's the finishing what's losing us points/games, not the creation. We have Buendia, Coutinho, an others to help Watkin's. I'm all for giving Ing's a good run of games, if he's lost it, Gerrard has some serious thinking to do in January. It’s the midfield that loses us games imo. We were 7th highest goal scorers last season, we threw away too many leads. 3 of which were by 2 goals, we finish 8th if we win those games. Teams like West Ham aren’t great but they know how to roll their sleeves up and win dirty if needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, skarroki said: Just done that poll on Birmingham mail of who to keep and sell and Traore is the player who is comfortably bottom of the list people want to keep (below Sanson, Guilbert, Luiz and Hause) Is this a recency bias thing or has he stated he wants a new challenge? What am I missing, why do so many want him sold? He’s not very good, probably why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, skarroki said: Just done that poll on Birmingham mail of who to keep and sell and Traore is the player who is comfortably bottom of the list people want to keep (below Sanson, Guilbert, Luiz and Hause) Is this a recency bias thing or has he stated he wants a new challenge? What am I missing, why do so many want him sold? We largely don't play with wide players, and he's well down the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, skarroki said: Just done that poll on Birmingham mail of who to keep and sell and Traore is the player who is comfortably bottom of the list people want to keep (below Sanson, Guilbert, Luiz and Hause) Is this a recency bias thing or has he stated he wants a new challenge? What am I missing, why do so many want him sold? Because he is injured a lot and, when he is fit, he is lightweight and inconsistent offensively. We have seen a few moments of brilliance but that is not going to get us where we need to get to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: Because he is injured a lot and, when he is fit, he is lightweight and inconsistent offensively. We have seen a few moments of brilliance but that is not going to get us where we need to get to. Agreed, for me he’s a wasted place in the squad, brilliant in flashes but he’s so inconsistent. He’d be good in a team that can cover his half arsedness but for us he’s as much a liability when he plays as he is an opposition threat. For me his place would be better suited to an up and coming young player like Cherki (yes, I really want us to sign Cherki ) I have to admit he’s amusing in the winter months though when he wears about 20 snoods in the training pics. Not sure we’d be able to shift him on though even if we wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, WHY said: It’s the midfield that loses us games imo. We were 7th highest goal scorers last season, we threw away too many leads. 3 of which were by 2 goals, we finish 8th if we win those games. Teams like West Ham aren’t great but they know how to roll their sleeves up and win dirty if needed. That's another issue we need to get better at, being a bit dirty, we are too nice. Hopefully Carlos will bring a bit of steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: That's another issue we need to get better at, being a bit dirty, we are too nice. Hopefully Carlos will bring a bit of steel. I agree, but I've had friends who support other Premier League teams here in the States telling me we're dirty since Gerrard took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaHatesMe said: I agree, but I've had friends who support other Premier League teams here in the States telling me we're dirty since Gerrard took over. Don’t think we’re dirty we just don’t roll over easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, skarroki said: Just done that poll on Birmingham mail of who to keep and sell and Traore is the player who is comfortably bottom of the list people want to keep (below Sanson, Guilbert, Luiz and Hause) Is this a recency bias thing or has he stated he wants a new challenge? What am I missing, why do so many want him sold? I love Traore, but if we are honest, he's probably our least necessary player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, PerryBarrPet said: Don’t think we’re dirty we just don’t roll over easy. I have friends who support Arsenal who believe half our team should be in prison for what we did to their darling Bukayo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, VillaHatesMe said: I agree, but I've had friends who support other Premier League teams here in the States telling me we're dirty since Gerrard took over. yep we are one of the most hated teams in the league for our dirty play, some of our players would be more hated if at top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I want other teams to see us as a tough team. Not entirely sure I agree though! To be fair the whole of the back 4 and McGinn have some steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I love Traore, but if we are honest, he's probably our least necessary player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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