imavillan Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) I don’t think he’s going anywhere soon. If Purslow and NSWE we’re going to sack him then surely, given the situation of the Leicester game being called off, it would have happened by now. Other than the boos after the West Ham game, the crowd have yet to turn on him. Granted, lose tomorrow night and I’m sure the boos will be ringing around VP at the end. If we win tomorrow. He’s going to be here for quite a while yet. Probably until the World Cup. I just can’t see Purslow and Co sacking him on the back of a win going into the international break. It will turn out to be yet another Villa missed opportunity in not being ruthless enough and going all out to get Poch in to replace him. Edited September 15, 2022 by imavillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, imavillan said: I don’t think he’s going anywhere soon. If Purslow and NSWE we’re going to sack him then surely, given the situation of the Leicester game being called off, it would have happened by now. Other than the boos after the West Ham game, the crowd have yet to turn on him. Granted, lose tomorrow night and I’m sure the boos will be ringing around VP at the end. If we win tomorrow. He’s going to be here for quite a while yet. Probably until the World Cup. I just can’t see Purslow and Co sacking him on the back of a win going into the international break. It will turn out to be yet another Villa missed opportunity in not being ruthless enough and going all out to get Poch in to replace him. I've yet to meet a Villa fan fully supportive of him. I can't believe there are many out there. I don't think the crowd are far from going bearing in mind the quality we now have. Edited September 15, 2022 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Honestly if I didn’t see the games or the results, and only watched the interviews, I’d be quite pleased with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, a m ole said: Honestly if I didn’t see the games or the results, and only watched the interviews, I’d be quite pleased with him. I agree and on the opposite side, if we only saw the games and results, and he wasn’t a famous ex-footballer we’d be saying how has this guy not been fired yet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, a m ole said: Honestly if I didn’t see the games or the results, and only watched the interviews, I’d be quite pleased with him. Gerrard is like Tommy without a mean pinball game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, nick76 said: I agree and on the opposite side, if we only saw the games and results, and he wasn’t a famous ex-footballer we’d be saying how has this guy not been fired yet. But he is a famous ex-footballer and you still say that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catanzaro Posted September 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2022 A lot depends on how the players feel about him.. Young certainly gave him a glowing endorsement.. and he’s played a good manager in his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, catanzaro said: A lot depends on how the players feel about him.. Young certainly gave him a glowing endorsement.. and he’s played a good manager in his time Young is also an ex teammate and is also smart enough in not going to criticize his manager publicly 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 15 hours ago, imavillan said: I don’t think he’s going anywhere soon. If Purslow and NSWE we’re going to sack him then surely, given the situation of the Leicester game being called off, it would have happened by now. Can you imagine what sort of media kicking we would have got had we taken the opportunity of an extended break between games to sack Gerrard, given the reason for the extended break? Plus you’d have had a load of fans from other clubs suddenly develop a moral compass and start to slate us. I think it will be interesting to see what happens tonight, and I hope we win as we need points on the board. I’m not sure too many fans will accept much less, depending on the actual performance I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Woody1000 said: But he is a famous ex-footballer and you still say that! Fair point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Can you imagine what sort of media kicking we would have got had we taken the opportunity of an extended break between games to sack Gerrard, given the reason for the extended break? 1) I don’t care and 2) we’d get a kicking but then tomorrow something else would take their attention for example look how quickly they have moved on from Tuchel being sacked. Their attention for Villa is limited at the best of times, we’d at best be covered for one or two news cycles if we sack Gerrard. 27 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Plus you’d have had a load of fans from other clubs suddenly develop a moral compass and start to slate us. When don’t other fans think they are better than us morally or otherwise. If it’s not Gerrard sacking, it’s how much we’ve spent or we think we are better than we are or we talk too much about ‘82 and trophies from 100+ years ago or we talk about Europe but we are a bottom half of the table team. We are the same to other teams, there is always something you can diss on opposing teams. Edited September 16, 2022 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Can you imagine what sort of media kicking we would have got had we taken the opportunity of an extended break between games to sack Gerrard, given the reason for the extended break? Plus you’d have had a load of fans from other clubs suddenly develop a moral compass and start to slate us. I think it will be interesting to see what happens tonight, and I hope we win as we need points on the board. I’m not sure too many fans will accept much less, depending on the actual performance I guess. Whilst some fans don’t care about this it’s something the club would need to consider. PR is important. Sacking a manager during this week wouldn’t be a great move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Can you imagine what sort of media kicking we would have got had we taken the opportunity of an extended break between games to sack Gerrard, given the reason for the extended break? Plus you’d have had a load of fans from other clubs suddenly develop a moral compass and start to slate us. I think it will be interesting to see what happens tonight, and I hope we win as we need points on the board. I’m not sure too many fans will accept much less, depending on the actual performance I guess. Yeah, the media would have a field day, but that's what they will do whenever the time is we get rid anyway. I just think the longer we wait the more the season is effectively over. I just hope, regardless of tonights result, that he's gone in the next couple of days and that the club have been working behind the scenes to get a replacement in. Look at Chelsea, for all the why's and wherefores, Tuchel was sacked and Potter was in his seat before it had chance to go cold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Whilst some fans don’t care about this it’s something the club would need to consider. PR is important. Sacking a manager during this week wouldn’t be a great move. PR is important, but one must have a long term view. Being criticized for a week isn't a problem if it improves things in the long run. If the club gets a reputation for sacking managers every other month like Watford, that's a PR problem. Villa wouldn't be anywhere near that even if Gerrard had been sacked last week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: PR is important, but one must have a long term view. Being criticized for a week isn't a problem if it improves things in the long run. If the club gets a reputation for sacking managers every other month like Watford, that's a PR problem. Villa wouldn't be anywhere near that even if Gerrard had been sacked last week. We’d just be the club known for sacking managers during a phase of mourning for the grandmother of one of the clubs most famous supporters who will one day be king. I personally wouldn’t care either way. But I can understand why the club wouldn’t want to sack him at this time. What’s a couple of weeks difference going to make in the long term ? Edited September 16, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 16, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2022 17 hours ago, imavillan said: I don’t think he’s going anywhere soon. If Purslow and NSWE we’re going to sack him then surely, given the situation of the Leicester game being called off, it would have happened by now. Other than the boos after the West Ham game, the crowd have yet to turn on him. Granted, lose tomorrow night and I’m sure the boos will be ringing around VP at the end. If we win tomorrow. He’s going to be here for quite a while yet. Probably until the World Cup. I just can’t see Purslow and Co sacking him on the back of a win going into the international break. It will turn out to be yet another Villa missed opportunity in not being ruthless enough and going all out to get Poch in to replace him. Not being ruthless? The sacking of Dean Smith sure seemed ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’d just be the club known for sacking managers during a phase of mourning for the grandmother of one of the clubs most famous supporters who will one day be king. Maybe it will cheer him up 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 hours ago, catanzaro said: A lot depends on how the players feel about him.. Young certainly gave him a glowing endorsement.. and he’s played a good manager in his time That because he is a old mate who has given him another year's contact and a chance to start his coaching badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Zatman said: Young is also an ex teammate and is also smart enough in not going to criticize his manager publicly However on the flipside Leon Bailey hinted in his interview how the players are the ones to blame and not previously showing their best. Gerrard does seem to talk a good game, the players also seem to be referencing that and buying into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I don’t think the players have turned against him but then it’s hard to really know as players can’t really speak out against the manager in public. Only way of ever knowing is if there was an ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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