jackbauer24 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Him and Traore are basically the same. Freestyle footballers who have no place in a professional game. They should be outside the stadium showing off their silky skills to impressionable young kids who will clap and cheer and keep away from the pitch where some amount of end product is expected. Edited April 2, 2022 by jackbauer24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, jackbauer24 said: Him and Traore are basically the same. Freestyle footballers who have no place in a professional game. They should be outside the stadium showing off their silky skills to impressionable young kids who will clap and cheer and keep away from the pitch where some amount of end product is expected. That is so not right. Bailey doesn't have skills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, jackbauer24 said: Him and Traore are basically the same. Freestyle footballers who have no place in a professional game. They should be outside the stadium showing off their silky skills to impressionable young kids who will clap and cheer and keep away from the pitch where some amount of end product is expected. Bit harsh that.... I just don't think they are suited to the pace of our league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, jackbauer24 said: Him and Traore are basically the same. Freestyle footballers who have no place in a professional game. They should be outside the stadium showing off their silky skills to impressionable young kids who will clap and cheer and keep away from the pitch where some amount of end product is expected. I could see Traore make a living juggling the ball in the street, but Bailey may have to rely on his clothing line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 2, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: I didn’t watch him at leverkusen Bayern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Im suprised he is getting criticised i thought he was one of the better players and was at least trying to attack and not scared to shoot. Was unlucky not to score too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Needs lots and lots of games to get up to speed, I'm sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Lightweight......I feel he might not be suited to the Premier League. This arduous league might not suit, his twinkle toes game....another Pepe, i fear. but I guess, he will be given more time. Edited April 2, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, VillaChris said: Ings has scored five goals all season, how is that "fine" for 30m striker?! Ollie's been poor aswell but he should make double figures which is o.k in scoring charts at least. Ings has played about 2/3 as many minutes as Watkins and has roughly 2/3 as many goals, there's not much between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 He's still only played 604 minutes for us according to transfermarkt, that's less than seven games worth, and he's only had a few starts. Way too early to be writing him off, needs a run in the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I wrote him off 6 months ago and haven't seen a thing to change that opinion. Nothing player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 hours ago, rodders0223 said: I think he will be loaned out next year and we'll be taking a 10m hit on him at least tbh. He's looks a million miles off. I know he has great reputation good stats but this one, like Sanson, just does not seem right or a fit. We've seen it for many times over the year and this one just doesn't seem a good marriage. And he will score 20 goals elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, R.Bear said: I wrote him off 6 months ago and haven't seen a thing to change that opinion. Nothing player. Did you write Gerrard off in same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 You don't score 28 goals and get 21 assists in 119 appearance in the Bundesliga, and 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in Europa League, if you're a nothing player. One goal and two assists in less than seven games worth of football in the premier league isn't bad either, especially as he hasn't been fully fit for most of that time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, useless said: and 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in Europa League Libor Kozak was top scorer in the Europa League the season before we signed him. Ross McCormack was the Championship top scorer. I couldnt give less of a shit what players did elsewhere. All that matters is what they do for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, useless said: You don't score 28 goals and get 21 assists in 119 appearance in the Bundesliga, and 10 goals and 5 assists in 27 appearances in Europa League, if you're a nothing player. One goal and two assists in less than seven games worth of football in the premier league isn't bad either, especially as he hasn't been fully fit for most of that time. I’m not convinced the German league is anywhere near as good as people assume beyond Bayern. Sancho and Werner have hardly set the world alight in the prem despite ripping up the bundesliga. I think Bailey is in a similar mould. El Ghazi would probably do a more than decent job in that league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Small up yuhself boy, mi deh yah, yuh know. chaka-chaka. Kick up rumpus V Spurs. Bless Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Ings has played about 2/3 as many minutes as Watkins and has roughly 2/3 as many goals, there's not much between them. Ings must've started 20 + games this season. Trying to shoehorn him into the team basically got Dean the sack and dosen't look to me like Gerrard is going to have much more success either. Considering he was always a solid double figures scorer for Burnley and Southampton in this league I think he's been a big failure. He's scored three league goals since August. What we needed last summer was a CF who could play across forward line so we could continue playing 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 but seems that plan was ditched for whatever reason once Grealish went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, JPJCB said: I’m not convinced the German league is anywhere near as good as people assume beyond Bayern. Sancho and Werner have hardly set the world alight in the prem despite ripping up the bundesliga. I think Bailey is in a similar mould. El Ghazi would probably do a more than decent job in that league That's fair. I watched plenty of it a few years back and it's a different rhythm to premier league, even the bottom end teams park their defences near halfway line so there's always space for wide attackers to run into if teams switch play quickly. That said ultimately we demand club starts signing proven players from other top leagues and Bailey fitted that criteria at a good age. Mind you Young started 20 + games for Italian league winners which probably shows Serie A is even weaker nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Have to play him in behind or at least create overloads regularly enough to get him 1v1 opportunities. Playing in front of banks of defenders will never see the best of him, he'll just try to do too much and lose it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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