VT’s Music Chat

[Seat68]

9 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Just don’t get Nick Cave at all. Cannot take to his music . Seems a crazy mother *****, too.

If it's his stuff like Into Your Arms that you can't get, try Deanna. 

[Rugeley Villa]

14 hours ago, Seat68 said:

If it's his stuff like Into Your Arms that you can't get, try Deanna. 

Nah, can’t take to that either. I just think he’s a required taste. You either like him or you don’t. He’s certainly not rubbish and I understand a lot of people will like him but he doesn’t fit into my head if that makes sense.  

[bickster]

5 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Nah, can’t take to that either. I just think he’s a required taste. You either like him or you don’t. He’s certainly not rubbish and I understand a lot of people will like him but he doesn’t fit into my head if that makes sense.  

Try either of the two Grinderman albums and the Album Dig Lazarus Dig by the bad seeds, they are "heavier" than normal

[mjmooney]

Sorry Bicks, but -  even though I never routinely play Beatles stuff these days - I cannot overstate how much I enjoyed all eight hours of the Get Back film. Utterly absorbing. 

[sidcow]

Was driving home last night after dropping the lad off when to my Suprise and delight 5.15 by The Who came on the radio.  I love The Who and it was brilliant to hear a song on the radio which is not one of the usual suspects. 

I also love that song so the radio was turned right up.  It was then immediately followed by The Kinks You Really Got Me.   By the time I got home I had to remove my Parka and all the extra rear view mirrors I'd stuck to the car. 

Edited December 12, 2021 by sidcow

[mjmooney]

2 hours ago, sidcow said:

driving home last night after dropping the lad off when to my Suprise and delight 5.15 by The Who came on the radio.  I love The Who and it was brilliant to hear a song on the radio which is not one of the usual suspects. 

While I think the storyline (and therefore some of the songwriting) was a bit laboured, playing-wise they were at their absolute peak with Quadrophenia. I saw them live on that tour - I was stood on the side of the stage, a couple of feet from Townshend and Moon, and it was probably the greatest gig I've ever seen. 

[Rugeley Villa]

Always liked The Who. Surprisingly my grandad never, although he had one or two albums by them. His reasoning was that he just couldn’t stick Pete Townshend, but I think he was being stubborn and he actually liked some of their stuff. It’s not until  I got a bit older that I appreciated how creative they were, Townshend in particular who would spend hours and hours trying to come up with these pieces of rock opera that would go on to be albums . From 1969 around Tommy up until Quad which was 73 they were great . Townshend doesn’t get the credit he deserves compared to what some of his peers get. Very hardworking and creative.  They kind of lost  it after that, well Keith Moon certainly did . Too long off the stage and too much partying around the mid 70s finished him off. 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Rugeley Villa

[sidcow]

I've got likes in the music chat thread 

 

[chrisp65]

When is that book coming out, Pete?

[bickster]

11 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

When is that book coming out, Pete?

Probably still doing his research

[mjmooney]

1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

When is that book coming out, Pete?

FFS. I expected better from VT than from the Facebook lynch mob. It came out in 2013. 

[chrisp65]

11 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

FFS. I expected better from VT than from the Facebook lynch mob. It came out in 2013. 

 

As you say, that book came out in 2013, from a book deal signed in 2011.

There was another book deal in 1996, abandoned in 1998.

The police caution for paying for child porn was in 2003.

 

Is Townsend a man scarred by his own experience of abuse? Certainly.

Was he paying to see child porn for academic research purposes? He says so.

 

[Xann]

Local interest?

[Rugeley Villa]

16 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

 

As you say, that book came out in 2013, from a book deal signed in 2011.

There was another book deal in 1996, abandoned in 1998.

The police caution for paying for child porn was in 2003.

 

Is Townsend a man scarred by his own experience of abuse? Certainly.

Was he paying to see child porn for academic research purposes? He says so.

 

Have you read the Keith Moon book “Dear Boy” 

[Designer1]

13 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Have you read the Keith Moon book “Dear Boy” 

I read that a few years ago. Incredibly interesting stuff.

He (Moon) must have been absolutely exhausting to be around. When you hear about some of the incidents he was involved in, you have this idea that they were every now and then. They weren't, they were pretty much daily. I really felt for his wife and the way he treated her.

Theres no doubt he was an absolute phenom when it came to drumming.

He certainly wasn't a pleasant human being though.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Designer1

[Rugeley Villa]

19 minutes ago, Designer1 said:

I read that a few years ago. Incredibly interesting stuff.

He (Moon) must have been absolutely exhausting to be around. When you hear about some of the incidents he was involved in, you have this idea that they were every now and then. They weren't, they were pretty much daily. I really felt for his wife and the way he treated her.

Theres no doubt he was an absolute phenom when it came to drumming.

He certainly wasn't a pleasant human being though.

Brilliant book which doesn’t just tell you about the excesses but also delves deeper into his personality and upbringing .  Brilliant drummer but seriously unhinged. As you say absolutely exhausting. The constant personality changes where he would remain in character for days at a time . He was lucky to make 32.  Made your Ozzy Osbournes look like a monk . 

[mjmooney]

Born December 13, 1948 in Washington, D.C, Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter played guitar with psychedelic rock band Ultimate Spinach, The Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan (their first three albums, Can't Buy a Thrill in 1972, Countdown to Ecstasy in 1973, and Pretzel Logic in 1974), and Spirit in the 1980s. Baxter has also worked with many other artists including Willy DeVille, Bryan Adams, Eric Clapton, Sheryl Crow, Joni Mitchell, Dolly Parton, Gene Clark, Carly Simon, Ringo Starr, Gene Simmons and Rod Stewart. 

More recently, he has worked as a defense consultant and chairs a Congressional Advisory Board on missile defense. Baxter fell into this second profession almost by accident. In the mid-1980s, his interest in music recording technology led him to wonder about hardware and software originally developed for military use, specifically data compression algorithms and large-capacity storage devices. His next-door neighbor was a retired engineer who had worked on the Sidewinder missile program. This neighbor bought Baxter a subscription to Aviation Week magazine, provoking his interest in additional military-oriented publications and missile defense systems in particular. He became self-taught in this area, and at one point wrote a five-page paper that proposed converting the ship-based anti-aircraft Aegis missile into a rudimentary missile defense system. He gave the paper to (now former) California Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, and his career as a defense consultant began. 

Rohrabacher was dubbed "Putin's best friend in congress." "Crazy Dana" as many of his constituents called him was notorious for making an ill-advised link between “dinosaur flatulence” and global warming; for his open disdain of homosexuals and undocumented immigrants; for welcoming a notorious Holocaust denier to Washington; and for thinking that the Oklahoma City bombing – a conspiracy of homegrown far-right radicals – was an Islamist plot cooked up by Middle Eastern radicals in the Philippines. He was a vocal supporter of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. 

[veloman]

On 12/12/2021 at 16:30, mjmooney said:

FFS. I expected better from VT than from the Facebook lynch mob. It came out in 2013. 

Is it in this book that he is critical of Roger Daltrey ? I thought I read that Daltrey thought he was regarded as not that good by some, or one, of the other members !

[chrisp65]

Does anyone have their music collection specifically named on their home insurance?

I never have, but a year of dabbling around discogs suggests I’ve got a number of records worth more than their original purchase price. No individual spectaculars, I think the most expensive is about £100. But a good few bumping around that £40 / £50 / £60 mark if for any reason I had to re purchase them.

Not any sort of humble brag, I just can’t help feeling that if I had a couple of thousand quid in watches, or pictures on the wall, or commemorative Diana mugs, I’d be making sure they were specifically insurance covered. 

I’ve got photos of them all as a sort of proof they existed should something dramatic happen. But telling the insurer after the event might not cut it.

[bickster]

18 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Does anyone have their music collection specifically named on their home insurance?

I never have, but a year of dabbling around discogs suggests I’ve got a number of records worth more than their original purchase price. No individual spectaculars, I think the most expensive is about £100. But a good few bumping around that £40 / £50 / £60 mark if for any reason I had to re purchase them.

Not any sort of humble brag, I just can’t help feeling that if I had a couple of thousand quid in watches, or pictures on the wall, or commemorative Diana mugs, I’d be making sure they were specifically insurance covered. 

I’ve got photos of them all as a sort of proof they existed should something dramatic happen. But telling the insurer after the event might not cut it.

Specialist Insurance is better. Not got any at the moment but that was the reason I started cataloguing them on Discogs so eventually I could download a complete list with insurance in mind. From what I've been told by others the premium isn't that high.

I just looked at one that was offering upto £50k cover for £27 a year