Zatman Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Compare Jan's games where they have played tougher sides than us yet got more points. We couldn't have asked for a better set of fixtures and we won one game against the worst team in the league by only a one goal margin. Sorry liek Smith but that's not good enough points return Then we can compare the away games he had previous months if we are only selecting certain timeframes Fact is Smith has more points since he got here including drubbing Monk with not his squad Edited February 4, 2019 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, Zatman said: Fact is Smith has more points since he got here including drubbing Monk with not his squad Yea it's easy to manage during the honeymoon period. Right now and how we are playing i would not feel confident at all against Blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Yea it's easy to manage during the honeymoon period. Right now and how we are playing i would not feel confident at all against Blues. I agree. They usually do well against any side at home so when they are even more up for it. I think they will beat us. 59 minutes ago, Zatman said: Then we can compare the away games he had previous months if we are only selecting certain timeframes Fact is Smith has more points since he got here including drubbing Monk with not his squad The game we luckily escaped being two down before twenty minutes you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Demitri_C said: The game we luckily escaped being two down before twenty minutes you mean? The game which our 34 year old right back walked through the entire well organised defence and scored with his bad foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Yea it's easy to manage during the honeymoon period. Right now and how we are playing i would not feel confident at all against Blues. honeymoon periods are myths in football. Most Villa managers in recent seasons never had a so called honeymoon period Garde, Lambert, Houllier, RDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 15 hours ago, Tayls said: You’re missing the point. The debate is, Monk is doing a better job than Smith. Smith has had, what 15 games, and joined part way through a season, Monk has had 43, including a full summer window. But anyway, yes we have spent a lot under the previous managers, have all of those purchases worked out for us? No...it doesn’t matter how much we spend if the style of play/tactics/morale etc is all wrong. This is what Smith is having to change - notice how barely anything was spent in the last window (his first window with us). And just because Birmingham haven’t spent anything doesn’t mean they don’t know how to play as a team with some decent players... it really is a stupid comparison, and to say that Smith isn’t doing as well as Monk is just rediculous. Most people in August on here were predicting SHA in the bottom 6. Didn't they also only win one of their opening 10 games aswell....so they didn't even have a good start to fall back upon. Monk has done very well there. Remember he took over from Cotterill who'd just guided them to seven straight defeats with them barely scoring a goal, they looked certs to go down this time last year. His next move will be crucial as didn't work out for him at Boro or Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Zatman said: The game which our 34 year old right back walked through the entire well organised defence and scored with his bad foot I think had that second goal gone in it could have been a very different score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: I think had that second goal gone in it could have been a very different score. but it didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Zatman said: but it didnt Luckily. We have a much tougher set of games coming up let's see how we do now as we blew it again in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Most people in August on here were predicting SHA in the bottom 6. Didn't they also only win one of their opening 10 games aswell....so they didn't even have a good start to fall back upon. Monk has done very well there. Remember he took over from Cotterill who'd just guided them to seven straight defeats with them barely scoring a goal, they looked certs to go down this time last year. His next move will be crucial as didn't work out for him at Boro or Leeds. I think Monk will go like Rowett, can push above your weight at a small club playing negative football but move up to a bigger club and have to expand the game and just cant do it. People seem to forget that Monk is a reason Swansea changed from passing football and lost the identity and led from comfortable mid table to relegation candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) Birmingham are a good side at the moment because they are playing as a unit - with one or two really good players. We are capable of playing as a unit when we have certain personnel fit, at the moment we are putting in a lot of new or returning players to make up our team, so we are having to learn quickly. We also have players, who, as we know, are a bit crap. So Smith is working with what he has available to him. We’ve beaten Derby and Middlesbrough on their own patch, and was robbed of beating West Brom. We took it to Leeds at our place but came up short. Yes we have been struggling since last month but that is because we have been missing key players and have had to fill in with some returning loans, as well as fitting in a new keeper who has come to a new country to play. Monk hasn’t had to worry about these things. The two managers cannot be properly compared against each this season. Edited February 4, 2019 by Tayls Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I find it quite amusing how they all sit at their keyboards desperately waiting to go above us even if it's by the tiniest margin. Cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 22 hours ago, villalad21 said: Monk is performing miracles with an awful team. We keep saying / writing this. Is it not just that this is a shit league but Villa are making a real bloody dogs dinner of it. There fairly crap squad is about right in the middle third of the table possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) double post Edited February 4, 2019 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Zatman said: I think Monk will go like Rowett, can push above your weight at a small club playing negative football but move up to a bigger club and have to expand the game and just cant do it. People seem to forget that Monk is a reason Swansea changed from passing football and lost the identity and led from comfortable mid table to relegation candidates Nah Swansea he did fine, took over 13/14 when they were looking over their shoulder towards bottom 3 and kept them up comfortably, 14/15 they finished 8th I think and yes 15/16 they lost their way but ultimately none of the other managers they appointed afterwards did better (they all did worse actually) which shows like us they lost their way at boardroom level. I'm not saying he's amazing but overall you look at his year at SHA and he really couldn't have done much better when you consider he had to pick up pieces of 'arry massively inflating the wage bill and all the ramfications they still have to suffer from this season. Frustrating as if they'd made another poor appointment this time last season they'd now safely be in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 06/01/2019 at 18:05, Demitri_C said: 5 live saying it will be a 5 point deduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: 5 live saying it will be a 5 point deduction 5points for a serious breach like that? Ffp is absolutebollocks. We shouldnt be scared of it if that's all the punishment your going to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Nice one Schteve. You bald word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 **** rocket polishers QPR. But the game of their life s in both games against us and against blose play the worst ever. Useless. still think we will finish above them people ?.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Bloose showing us how it's done with shite team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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