Made In Aston Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Toney has scored 7 and 14 non penalty goals in his last two seasons from 7.4 and 13.6 xG Watkins has scored 13, 10 and 14 non penalty goals from 13, 11 and 14.6 xG So they both score at their rate of xG and Toney has never outscored Watkins from open play. When it comes to goals it's Toney's penalties which skew his stats rather than his open play goal scoring. A striker should be scoring goals from penalties and the fact Watkins can't, is a negative against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Made In Aston said: A striker should be scoring goals from penalties and the fact Watkins can't, is a negative against him. Except if we have a better penalty taker at the club. If Luiz is our designated taker and he scores them then Watkins ability from the spot is irrelevant to our teams performance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Except if we have a better penalty taker at the club. If Luiz is our designated taker and he scores them then Watkins ability from the spot is irrelevant to our teams performance. We both know Watkins was taken off penalties because he was so bad at them,not because Luiz was always considered better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: We both know Watkins was taken off penalties because he was so bad at them,not because Luiz was always considered better. Yes, but penalties are set pieces. The best taker from the team should (and usually does) take them. When it comes to a teams performance it's GKs and the teams Penalty takers that matter in that situation. Not specifically the strikers ability to score penalties. However, being the best penalty taker at the club and one of the best in the league is clearly a big plus. Toney has score 8/11 in PL which is 0.73 conversion rate and the xG from Penalties are 0.79 so he's been about or slightly below average. Edited October 21, 2023 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: A striker should be scoring goals from penalties and the fact Watkins can't, is a negative against him. I think he’s more of an instinct player. When he has too much time to make a decision he doesn’t do as well. Might be why he’s poor at penalties. Overthinks it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: A striker should be scoring goals from penalties and the fact Watkins can't, is a negative against him. Messi penalty record is 78% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 An unbelievable finish. How, how, how does he scuff the shot from eight yards out and centre of the box wide and then score that chance? He's a **** enigma. And I'm here for all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I can't criticise him today. Solid passing, solid holdup, and you can't beat a roof of the net near post finish. Hasselbaink esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Seem like fans expect him to dscore on every single chance. Completely unreasonable. Once again been absolutely superb Even if he missed that chance it would still be an 8/10 performance. Edited October 22, 2023 by Pinebro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I can't criticise him today. Solid passing, solid holdup, and you can't beat a roof of the net near post finish. Hasselbaink esque. I think it’s a standard Ollie performance excellent but could have scored a Hatrick . Regardless He’s one of the best strikers in the country . Edited October 22, 2023 by gwi1890 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 goals 4 assist in 8 games. Can't wait until we sign this mythical improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Superb performance from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: 4 goals 4 assist in 8 games. Can't wait until we sign this mythical improvement. Neither can I. He'll be getting five goals every two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 goals, 5 assists this season in the league lol. What a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Seem like fans expect him to dscore on every single chance. Completely unreasonable. Once again been absolutely superb Even if he missed that chance it would still be an 8/10 performance. If we lost or drew would you still have given him 8 out 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: 5 goals, 5 assists this season in the league lol. What a player **** brilliant considering he’s not hit full form yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Don_Simon said: If we lost or drew would you still have given him 8 out 10? Yep. Always judge players on their overall performance not just moments. Thankfully that's how Emery analyze his performances too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 What a strike that was, one of his best goals for us imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted October 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I can't criticise him today. Solid passing, solid holdup, and you can't beat a roof of the net near post finish. Hasselbaink esque. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Tbf I posted that before his wasteful ball into the keeper's arms with two waiting in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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