Popular Post Zatman Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChesterDad said: we have all seen with our own eyes just how awful he has been for long periods. You don’t need statistics to tell you this much surely ? Facts would tell you his poorest form was the year we decided not to hire a head coach. Now since he has been coached again he is playing well 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Facts would tell you his poorest form was the year we decided not to hire a head coach. Now since he has been coached again he is playing well I kinda think we are almost agreeing with each other now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, ChesterDad said: Sorry but personally I’m not allowing myself to get too carried away just yet. it’s brilliant to see Ollie in such fine form but I can’t forgot so quickly that he has been poor for longer than he has been good. I’d be quite worried if there was a grain of truth in the ings theory - I think it’s down to better coaching. I’ll just wait a little while longer - if Ollie is still performing like this at the end of the season then I would say it’s much more than a good patch of form You can't say that in here pal, he's scored 5 in 5 therefore is perfect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Tom13 said: You can't say that in here pal, he's scored 5 in 5 therefore is perfect! Literally not one person has said that mate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Literally not one person has said that mate. Maybe not, but any kind of criticism or reservations about him are met with disbelief. Edited February 27, 2023 by Tom13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Maybe not, but any kind of criticism or reservations about him are met with disbelief. I recommend you read through the countless page upon page of comments on here from posters offering to drive him to any club that would buy him not 4 months ago... Edited February 27, 2023 by Steero113 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: You can't say that in here pal, he's scored 5 in 5 therefore is perfect! Lol no one is saying this. We all know he sometimes has a poor first touch. That he sometimes makes a poor decision not picking out a tm for a pass. That he sometimes finishes poorly. But he also does a lot of things right. Excellent hold up play. Being incredibly difficult to mark. Immense work rate. Clever positioning. Rather quick. When he's on 5 in 5 I guess most of us just tilt towards focusing on his bright spots rather than his shortcomings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Maybe not, but any kind of criticism or reservations about him are met with disbelief. What's the point of criticism when he's absolutely flying? Scores 5 in 5, bullies defenders every week, massively helpful for the way Emery sets up this team etc. But we should focus on *checks notes* his inconsistent first touch? Did you think he was a midfielder or something, collecting the ball in space? Or is he constantly being harassed by big CBs all game? It's such a silly nitpick especially considering he's one of the best in the league with his back to goal as well as running onto balls into space. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 If we ever sold him we would demand a fortune. Look at the issues teams have had getting a number 9 . And especially one who is so rarely injured. Emery is getting him scoring really heavily just like he has done with all his main strikers at his clubs If he carried on this form for a season he would be getting 30 goals and assists. From memory when Moyes enquired about him last summer we quoted 80 million . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: Maybe not, but any kind of criticism or reservations about him are met with disbelief. Like when I criticise Buendia/Traore and you can’t believe it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 It’s getting pretty ridiculous in this thread, the “Ollie Watkins is s***” opinion is an odd hill to die on currently if you ask me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Like when I criticise Buendia/Traore and you can’t believe it! Completely different. I've always said Ollie has strengths. You just generically say Traore makes bad decisions and is ineffective. Well the eye test and stats disprove that. Everyone was agreed on Ollie's weaknesses previously. Edited February 27, 2023 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: It’s getting pretty ridiculous in this thread, the “Ollie Watkins is s***” opinion is an odd hill to die on currently if you ask me. No-one has said that, so that's an odd comment to make if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tom13 said: No-one has said that, so that's an odd comment to make if you ask me. Is it more odd than your made up “Ollie is perfect” comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The Ollie song is worthy of a Ivan Novello award. It must have took days to compose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 What if he just scores every game forever now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Zatman said: Facts would tell you his poorest form was the year we decided not to hire a head coach. Now since he has been coached again he is playing well Why is this so hard for people to understand? His only chance to score was on the rare occasion we created a moment of magic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: What if he just scores every game forever now? He'll still have the occasional poor touch, and those weaknesses far outweigh whatever good he does.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Tom13 said: Maybe not, but any kind of criticism or reservations about him are met with disbelief. No... criticism after we have won away and and picked up 3 points and he's scored is met with disbelief.... You mentioned how poor his touch was in one moment, but you didn't mention how good his touch was in another moment. Your continual need to look for negatives without the balance of positives, makes your argument heavily unbalanced. I do not apologise for reacting to any heavily unbalanced argument with utter disbelief. Especially when that argument is brought up when we have just won away Edited February 28, 2023 by Villan_of_oz 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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