LondonLax Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Awol said: On the debate around whether this is just knocking over people who were on the way out one way or another, it seems to have made a deployed US aircraft carrier combat ineffective: Quote So far, none of the infected sailors has shown serious symptoms That seems typical of this virus unless you have underlying health issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Some good info on one of the Hydroxychloroquine studies here: https://depts.washington.edu/covid19pep/ This is to test if it’s effective as a prophylactic Quote Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus. At this time, there are no vaccines or treatments for COVID-19. However, there are many ongoing clinical trials evaluating potential treatments, including this study. The COVID-19 PEP Study is a groundbreaking effort from top research teams at the University of Washington and New York University. This is a carefully controlled study on a large scale that aims to provide the global medical community with evidence of the effectiveness of post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) to prevent COVID-19. By participating in this study, you can help scientists find a proven way to prevent COVID-19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: The company my wife works for, one of the very large service management companies isnt allowing anyone to cancel leave. So as an example we are booked to go to the US in June, if we cant, tough she has to take the leave. The place I work tried to do that. Using the line that people still need to relax and take time off etc. Who wants to take time off in a lockdown? A lot of colleagues had booked Easter off and there was uproar when they couldn't cancel. The company backed down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The FDA have now also ‘approved’ (under emergency use authorisation) the drug to be used on patients in the US, in the absence of a clinical study https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization#covidtherapeutics Quote On March 28, 2020, FDA issued an EUA to allow hydroxychloroquine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate products donated to the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) to be distributed and used for certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19. These drugs will be distributed from the SNS to states for doctors to prescribe to adolescent and adult patients hospitalized with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible. The EUA requires that fact sheets that provide important information about using chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate in treating COVID-19 be made available to health care providers and patients, including the known risks and drug interactions. The SNS, managed by ASPR, will work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to ship donated doses to states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Xela said: The place I work tried to do that. Using the line that people still need to relax and take time off etc. Who wants to take time off in a lockdown? A lot of colleagues had booked Easter off and there was uproar when they couldn't cancel. The company backed down. I had some holiday booked and snuck through my unscheduling before they had a chance to announce any sort of policy around them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2020 I haven't booked a single days leave this year so far and absolutely don't intend to until some sort of normality returns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Essential activity Quote ARIZONA DECLARES GOLF ESSENTIAL ACTIVITY Golfers in Arizona can still get their hacks in amid stay-at-home orders ... the state has declared the sport essential -- and some residents are PISSED over the exception. Officials laid down the new rules in the Grand Canyon State this week ... forcing Arizonans to shelter in place unless they had good reason to leave -- like for jobs or essential activities. Of course, while on the links, it's pretty easy to social distance ... but there are definite problem areas at the golf facilities nonetheless. Practice greens, ranges and the starting area can all get backed up with people ... and we're told some residents in Arizona are seeing their golf-course-lined neighborhoods turn into gathering areas as well. https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/31/arizona-golf-essential-coronavirus-covid-19-restrictions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 381 new deaths in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 93% of deaths in UK are over 65's 73% of deaths in UK are over 75's 47% of deaths in UK are over 85's London, Sheffield, Birmingham and Slough have the highest rates of coronavirus infections in the UK, per 100,000 people Edited March 31, 2020 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Villarocker said: When I'm over this I'm going to have another problem. Basically, my Asthma medication puts me in the "high risk" bracket and therefore should shield myself for 12 weeks as per the government’s guidelines. However, the government hasn't sent any communication. I followed the NHS111 advice and contacted my GP asking for a note to prove I'm entitled to shielding but they said they're not giving out any medical notes relating to Coronavirus. So, how do I get my bosses to understand that I should be shielded? All here mate... https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19#what-do-we-mean-by-extremely-vulnerable What do we mean by extremely vulnerable? People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include: Solid organ transplant recipients. People with specific cancers: people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy people with lung cancer who are undergoing radical radiotherapy people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD. People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell). People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection. Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired. Shielding is for your personal protection. It is your choice to decide whether to follow the measures we advise. Individuals who have been given a prognosis of less than 6 months to live, and some others in special circumstances, could decide not to undertake shielding. This will be a deeply personal decision. We advise calling your GP or specialist to discuss this. The NHS in England is directly contacting people with these conditions to provide further advice. If you think you fall into one of the categories of extremely vulnerable people listed above and you have not received a letter by Sunday 29 March 2020 or been contacted by your GP, you should discuss your concerns with your GP or hospital clinician. We understand this is an anxious time and people considered extremely vulnerable will understandably have questions and concerns. Plans are being readied to make sure you can rely on a wide range of help and support. Edited March 31, 2020 by Kingman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Meh. I don’t know. I’ve raised it anyway and challenged them. HR communication is coming out soon so I’ll raise it again. Like I said most of the FAQs online seem to suggest they can do this. I think I went at it a bit too harshly in that first post and I had some second thoughts in my reply to Tony's reply to you. In terms of them passing on what they get from the gov over the course of the month then it doesn't really matter how they do it (in effect). It's the making people take the one day as holiday that looks as though it's a bit iffy because I'll bet they'll go on to claim that they've then kept everyone on full pay for the duration of their furlough and, whilst they'll be paying them in full, they are not making up the difference, the employees are. Edit: You've looked at more of the FAQs than me, though - so it looks like they can do it. It's just a bit of a rum do. Edited March 31, 2020 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, wazzap24 said: prophylactic Just quoting this out of context as whenever I read it I hear in my head the guy in The Blues Brothers handing Jake's stuff back to him when he leaves prison. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 31, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2020 Short Thread. Doing what comes naturally, Gove and Gvt lying again this time over the availability of the reagent for CV19 testing. Industry says he's chatting shit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, snowychap said: I think I went at it a bit too harshly in that first post and I had some second thoughts in my reply to Tony's reply to you. In terms of them passing on what they get from the gov over the course of the month then it doesn't really matter how they do it (in effect). It's the making people take the one day as holiday that looks as though it's a bit iffy because I'll bet they'll go on to claim that they've then kept everyone on full pay for the duration of their furlough and, whilst they'll be paying them in full, they are not making up the difference, the employees are. Edit: You've looked at more of the FAQs than me, though - so it looks like they can do it. It's just a bit of a rum do. Yeah I think this is my conclusion. They CAN do it. But I think I expected better. It’s not some small company that has to watch every penny. I know they have to watch costs, but seems a bit shitty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, snowychap said: Just quoting this out of context as whenever I read it I hear in my head the guy in The Blues Brothers handing Jake's stuff back to him when he leaves prison. It was only a few months ago that I found out it was Frank Oz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Seat68 said: The company my wife works for, one of the very large service management companies isnt allowing anyone to cancel leave. So as an example we are booked to go to the US in June, if we cant, tough she has to take the leave. My company has done the same, and I kind of understand the reasoning. Should we get back to "business as usual" in October (used as a example rather than a prediction) and the whole workforce had 26 days annual leave that they need to get in before Xmas, it would be a mess. It's not ideal, but I'll understand it. On another note. About 50% of my team have been furloughed today. I've already had calls from guys that haven't, 'if they are getting 80% for sitting at home, I'm effectively working and putting myself at risk for 20%' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Anyone else got no faith in Jenny Harries? She seems to give very clear, reassuring answers to difficult questions, which later turn out to be bollocks. I want to trust her as an expert, but I feel like she’s fallen into the trap of saying things that will get a pat on the back from her political colleagues in the post-press conference debrief. A bit too plausible, a bit too reassuring, where perhaps “I don’t know” or “we don’t have the same resources as Germany” are the more accurate answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, av1 said: My company has done the same, and I kind of understand the reasoning. Should we get back to "business as usual" in October (used as a example rather than a prediction) and the whole workforce had 26 days annual leave that they need to get in before Xmas, it would be a mess. It's not ideal, but I'll understand it. That's a fair point and I do understand it, too. There are a couple of further points: I think the government said they had or would change the rules about statutory annual leave so that it could be carried over for the next two years - obviously this is different to contractual annual leave which will often be more; also, I do think there was room to say that holiday entitlement shouldn't accrue during any period of 'furlough', which might have alleviated some of the problems if the furlough is lengthy as per your example above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, av1 said: My company has done the same, and I kind of understand the reasoning. Should we get back to "business as usual" in October (used as a example rather than a prediction) and the whole workforce had 26 days annual leave that they need to get in before Xmas, it would be a mess. It's not ideal, but I'll understand it. That was the same rationale for my employer. However the Government have said people can carry over annual leave now for up to 2 years, so there is no real need to enforce holidays anymore https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rules-on-carrying-over-annual-leave-to-be-relaxed-to-support-key-industries-during-covid-19?utm_source=c6e6eb22-18fd-4e76-9ec9-0eb32c478b5f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate Quote Workers who have not taken all of their statutory annual leave entitlement due to COVID-19 will now be able to carry it over into the next 2 leave years, under measures introduced by Business Secretary Alok Sharma today (Friday 27 March). Currently, almost all workers are entitled to 28 days holiday including bank holidays each year. However, most of this entitlement cannot be carried between leave years, meaning workers lose their holiday if they do not take it. There is also an obligation on employers to ensure their workers take their statutory entitlement in any one year – failure to do so could result in a financial penalty. The regulations will allow up to 4 weeks of unused leave to be carried into the next 2 leave years, easing the requirements on business to ensure that workers take statutory amount of annual leave in any one year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Xela said: 93% of deaths in UK are over 65's 73% of deaths in UK are over 75's 47% of deaths in UK are over 85's London, Sheffield, Birmingham and Slough have the highest rates of coronavirus infections in the UK, per 100,000 people Out of curiosity, where did you get that those four places have highest infection rate in the UK? ...asking for a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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