tonyh29 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 If nothing else comes out of today , I’m hoping it’s encouraged a few more of @bickster neighbours to take up playing the bagpipes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: If nothing else comes out of today , I’m hoping it’s encouraged a few more of @bickster neighbours to take up playing the bagpipes We all agree that one cat strangler is one too many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, markavfc40 said: I am not forcing them on people though am I. I am just presenting my opinions on here which is a forum for discussion. I haven't mentioned it at work, I haven't mentioned it to friends or family when I have been out, I haven't spoke to my neighbours about it when I have bumped into them. At work I have had a couple of people give opinions I am opposed to but I have tolerated. This whole site wouldn't last long would it if we didn't enter into discussions/give opinions. OK, well what you meant is clearer now. I'm not saying you shouldn't give your opinions, just that it seemed a bit odd to claim you've been keeping your opinions to yourself while also repeatedly claiming the funeral was a waste of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Dan Wootton trying his hardest to be the man who coined "Elizabeth the Great" is really getting on my tits. Just learn how to mourn someone without being an attention seeking word removed ffs, it's not a competition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 I’ve been out of the country so not followed the whole funeral very closely. This thread has been entertaining though, so I’ll thank you all for that. I get that people want to mourn her, and that’s fine. But I do find the whole competitive grieving behaviour really **** weird. Not many people really knew her, yet so many claim to know her inner thoughts, motives and aspirations. Just seems like so many are desperate to capitalise on the event for their own kudos. I also deeply resent being told how I should feel by the BBC and the rest of the media, I am not ‘profoundly upset’ at the news. But I can empathise for her family, same as I can for Ethel Longbottom’s family. The constant wall-to-wall coverage has been ridiculous. I haven’t watched it fair enough, so it hasn’t affected me. The only thing that really affected me directly was my first train from Bristol to Birmingham was cancelled on Sunday morning, after a 5 hour wait in the cold I ended up on a Megabus from a rough end of town. At least I wasn’t someone who had their surgery cancelled, and at least I wasn’t attending my mothers funeral, so there is that too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Jareth said: I think this country will need to rethink what it is - brand GB has had the queen front and centre forever. Can't say we'll just swap in Charles, he has lived an entirely different life to Liz. Ermm, isn't that what happens. We've had 40 odd monarchs since William The Conqueror. We just swap in the next one. Some of them lived Medieval lives, some lived Victorian lives. We definitely can say we'll just swap in Charles, in fact i think I can absolutely guarantee we will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted September 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, Panto_Villan said: OK, well what you meant is clearer now. I'm not saying you shouldn't give your opinions, just that it seemed a bit odd to claim you've been keeping your opinions to yourself while also repeatedly claiming the funeral was a waste of money. Well sorry I wasn't clearer then. As I said in an earlier post mate my opinions on the Royals are very much I couldn't give a shit other than thinking it bonkers that someone comes out of a certain womb, is instantly born into privilege and we give them a status and all pay for them. It is madness but hey ho do I give enough of a shit that it would be in my top 50 topics to talk with my family/friends/work colleagues about? absolutely not. If the opportunity presents itself on a discussion thread on a website I spend far too much time on then yes I'll give my two penn'orth worth, as I will on a lot of topics. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: I also deeply resent being told how I should feel by the BBC and the rest of the media, I saw a bit on ITV where they were by the Albert Hall and the presenter said something along the lines of thousands of people here to say Thank You to the Queen for her service … he might be right , but I’d imagine based on the people I went with and around me that people were mainly there to witness the event , Thank you never came into it once amongst our group 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: If nothing else comes out of today , I’m hoping it’s encouraged a few more of @bickster neighbours to take up playing the bagpipes Surely not just neighbours should be able to join in. Just popping over now: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, imavillan said: The relationship to the post and the funeral of undoubtedly a fine, fine woman, who represented this country to the best and in a most dignified way. I could put pictures up of any old shit that's happening in this country or indeed the world. What does that prove? Every country in the world has the have's and have nots. It's a cheap shot. I watched the funeral, even as a republican. I don't agree with the role of Queen or King, but while it exists all I can ask is that whoever has the job title does a good job, and Elizabeth II did exactly that. The shot is not at Elizabeth II, but at the notion that Ledbury High Street is "her real England". You can't have one without the other. She either reigned over all of it or none of it. Of course the royal family aren't to blame for homelessness, or indeed the countless other societal issues we're currently facing. They're at the hands of those who would make up His Majesty's Government. In the grand scheme of things, the cost/value conversation of the monarchy is fairly pointless. The notion of what else the money could be spent on is pointless. The argument about tourism value is pointless. But the passing of the Queen shouldn't give us a rose-tinted view of what this country is like. She worked incredibly hard on behalf of this nation. As a nation, in the truest sense of the word, there's still a lot of hard work to be done. For me, if Queen Elizabeth II has left a legacy it's a reminder that we have a duty to each other in order to make Britain truly Great. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: I watched the funeral, even as a republican. I don't agree with the role of Queen or King, but while it exists all I can ask is that whoever has the job title does a good job, and Elizabeth II did exactly that. The shot is not at Elizabeth II, but at the notion that Ledbury High Street is "her real England". You can't have one without the other. She either reigned over all of it or none of it. Of course the royal family aren't to blame for homelessness, or indeed the countless other societal issues we're currently facing. They're at the hands of those who would make up His Majesty's Government. In the grand scheme of things, the cost/value conversation of the monarchy is fairly pointless. The notion of what else the money could be spent on is pointless. The argument about tourism value is pointless. But the passing of the Queen shouldn't give us a rose-tinted view of what this country is like. She worked incredibly hard on behalf of this nation. As a nation, in the truest sense of the word, there's still a lot of hard work to be done. For me, if Queen Elizabeth II has left a legacy it's a reminder that we have a duty to each other in order to make Britain truly Great. good reposte, but maybe some words to back up the picture would have helped me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, imavillan said: good reposte, but maybe some words to back up the picture would have helped me.... That's fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 hours ago, phily85 said: Was cutting the grass earlier had a bit of an argument with an overly aggressive neighbour, who marched over to tell me how disrespectful I was being doing it today, after everything she did for us. Couldnt help myself I've heard this stated quite a lot so I asked him to name 2 things she has done for us. He soon walked off. Just finish this by saying I have no problem with any of it you want to spend the day mourning or playing with yourself its up to you but we dont live in north korea Then why take a day off that was meant to mourn her passing and go to work yourself. That’s the reason you got the day off so if you don’t agree with it why not go to work. Simples 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Then why take a day off that was meant to mourn her passing and go to work yourself. That’s the reason you got the day off so if you don’t agree with it why not go to work. Simples Because work was closed for many of us. I voluntered to go in and was told no. So yes, I had an enforced holiday for no good reason, one that has come out of my holiday allowance EDIT: and for once, I agree with the government, they didn't want to make it a public holiday by all accounts but Buckingham Palace came to an agreement (for waht we don't know) to make it a PH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Then why take a day off that was meant to mourn her passing and go to work yourself. That’s the reason you got the day off so if you don’t agree with it why not go to work. Simples Not sure that’s how Bank Holidays work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, bickster said: Because work was closed for many of us. I voluntered to go in and was told no. So yes, I had an enforced holiday for no good reason, one that has come out of my holiday allowance so, you had an enforced holiday... and your employer is taking an extra bank holiday out of your normal holiday allowance... sounds to me like you've got a dictatorial shite employer maybe it's time for a change... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, imavillan said: so, you had an enforced holiday... and your employer is taking an extra bank holiday out of your normal holiday allowance... sounds to me like you've got a dictatorial shite employer maybe it's time for a change... Sounds like you have no understanding of my situation, my contract, my industry or employment law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Undoubtedly a fine, fine woman. Who harboured a pedophile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2022 A flitting close to a remarkable day God save our gracious King! Long live our noble King! God save the King! Send him victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us, God save the King. Thy choicest gifts in store On him be pleased to pour, Long may he reign. May he defend our laws, And ever give us cause, To sing with heart and voice, God save the King. Good night all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Follyfoot said: A flitting close to a remarkable day God save our gracious King! Long live our noble King! God save the King! Send him victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us, God save the King. Thy choicest gifts in store On him be pleased to pour, Long may he reign. May he defend our laws, And ever give us cause, To sing with heart and voice, God save the King. Good night all Park life! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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