DCJonah Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Just now, TRO said: In some eyes. A lot of pundits were saying it as well. He had a very solid season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: A lot of pundits were saying it as well. He had a very solid season. That season he was only dribbled past once (I think) . He was a rock. In fact carragher kept mentioning him as though he was conditioning everyone to him moving to Liverscum. Maybe it is the crowds that a lot of these players struggle with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Konsa has lost the plot since Gerrard came in. I think that there's a problem with the new buys being on bigger money than some of the players that were previously doing great. McGinn, Konsa, Luiz, Traore have all regressed under Gerrard's management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 How he let Zaha get beyond him is a **** mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Villarocker said: Konsa has lost the plot since Gerrard came in. I think that there's a problem with the new buys being on bigger money than some of the players that were previously doing great. McGinn, Konsa, Luiz, Traore have all regressed under Gerrard's management. I think it's a worry that not a single player has improved in the 10 months he's been here. Maybe you could argue Cash, but to be honest, I think he was on an upwards trajectory regardless of who the manager was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 4 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: Was John Terry actually a really brilliant defensive coach? It can’t have been all the lack of crowds surely? I think in the Smith set up he had Cash/Targett more back so Konsa didnt have a lot of space to defend. I think this helped him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: The weakest player in the squad. Mr. Pass responsibility. Even the first goal. He doesn't commit Zaha, he doesn't take responsibility, he doesn't want to be the one to get "done" or be exposed. Not commit. Let Zaha shoot and if it goes in it isnt my fault. I've not been beat. He needs to be gone. We need to sign two centre halves. He's the first to flap his arms when we concede. He's petulant. He never passes the ball through the lines. Only to people 5 yards next to him. Time and time again he'll just give it to Mings, who is in a worse position than him and less outballs - to pump it up into the channels. spot on.....but decisions like this to play him......is Gerrard hanging himself. Everyone can see it, except the man that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I think it's a worry that not a single player has improved in the 10 months he's been here. Maybe you could argue Cash, but to be honest, I think he was on an upwards trajectory regardless of who the manager was. If that was improvement yesterday.....I'm a monkeys uncle. You was right first time.....no one has improved. The fluctuations in form alone ,are a major worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, DCJonah said: A lot of pundits were saying it as well. He had a very solid season. On the ground, he wasn't too bad, in the air lightweight imo. sadly, centre backs have to deal with high balls, as well as defend on the ground.....He always made me nervous, with aerial balls. I always thought Mings covered for him....but Konza has got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, TRO said: On the ground, he wasn't too bad, in the air lightweight imo. sadly, centre backs have to deal with high balls, as well as defend on the ground.....He always made me nervous, with aerial balls. I always thought Mings covered for him....but Konza has got worse. True, but he looked so solid on the ground that it seemed to compensate for that. I've no idea how he's gone so backwards. Confidence looks shot at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: True, but he looked so solid on the ground that it seemed to compensate for that. I've no idea how he's gone so backwards. Confidence looks shot at times. As you say, on recent showings they all have. We are simply doing too many things wrong, inc selections, tactics, etc......its draining to everyone one.....The confidence is shot in all of us. Edited August 21, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Villarocker said: Konsa has lost the plot since Gerrard came in. I think that there's a problem with the new buys being on bigger money than some of the players that were previously doing great. McGinn, Konsa, Luiz, Traore have all regressed under Gerrard's management. Sorry but this is fantasy He was shite last season under Deano as well, and partially responsible for him losing his job, as was Ollie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Sorry but this is fantasy He was shite last season under Deano as well, and partially responsible for him losing his job, as was Ollie. I honestly thought all this would change Shaun, but its geting worse. We are throwing new players at it and its still getting worse. Edited August 21, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, TRO said: I honestly thought all this would change Shaun, but its geting worse. We are throwing new players at it and its still getting worse. I'm a bit disillusioned with it all at the minute. As we've said multiple times, if we don't address the midfield and our athleticism nothing will change. As much as we all love McGinn, admittedly, the Captaincy is looking a bit of a clanger, he's often the weakest link. So SG has put himself in a bind, probably unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Villarocker said: Konsa has lost the plot since Gerrard came in. I think that there's a problem with the new buys being on bigger money than some of the players that were previously doing great. McGinn, Konsa, Luiz, Traore have all regressed under Gerrard's management. All inconsistent players mostly in their prime. Konsa looks like he’s reached his ceiling and isn’t as high as hoped & expected … good squad player but should start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Konsa just isn't good enough for the Premier League. Admittedly he's being made to look worse by Gerrard's bizarre system which leaves our CB's out of position a lot of the time with little or no initial support. However, even in a balanced system he would still be a very weak link. I think the reason why SG seems to like him is because he watches him star in small sided training games where physical tenacity and positional play aren't so important. Match days are nothing like that and Ezri often looks like a Sunday League player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 21/08/2022 at 14:06, villabromsgrove said: Konsa just isn't good enough for the Premier League. Admittedly he's being made to look worse by Gerrard's bizarre system which leaves our CB's out of position a lot of the time with little or no initial support. However, even in a balanced system he would still be a very weak link. I think the reason why SG seems to like him is because he watches him star in small sided training games where physical tenacity and positional play aren't so important. Match days are nothing like that and Ezri often looks like a Sunday League player. Nothing he can do is going right - can't header, can't read the game, makes mistakes under no pressure. I understand he needs time to get fitness levels up. Utterly weak link again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 This kid is petrified of the ball. He never closes the opposition when they have it and he rarely shows in possession. For their goal today he should have been flying out to attack the ball but he is totally statuesque. He drives me mad. I would have Hause ahead of him. At least he has got some courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 his interviews are as bad as his on pitch performances. I wouldnt roll out a players talking like that, he looked like he was going to have a breakdown. He sounded ismilar when they rolled him out a couple of weeks ago. Wheres frickin El Capitan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam2003 Posted August 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2022 I expect I’ll be the only one but I thought he was good today. We had no cutting edge whatsoever and that’s a major major problem, but I didn’t think anyone in defence/defensive mid played poorly. They scored one deflected long range goal, that’s all. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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