Demitri_C Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, BOF said: Emiliano Sala agent Willie McKay challenges Cardiff to public Q&A It’s all got a bit messy now hasn’t it ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, BOF said: Emiliano Sala agent Willie McKay challenges Cardiff to public Q&A What is the implication here then? That Cardiff / Warnock have done something wrong? "I only booked and paid for the flight" - that's kind of a big deal Willie and it's nothing like booking a taxi, unless there's more than 4 of you the size and type of taxi is irrelevant. If you're flying across the channel, at night, then I think the size and type of plane is quite important, as well as the experience level of the pilot............hard to see anything other than he tried to do it on the cheap and now he's lashing out as a defence mechanism cos he knows that in some form he's at least partly responsible. I would have sympathy for him but he's a football agent and tantamount to pond-scum as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I get the impression (nothing more than that) that Cardiff have failed to insure Sala sufficiently after he signed his contract, hence no compensation for the transfer fee and thus stalling to pay Nantes and trying to apportion blame. whatever is happening, it’s not treating the death of an employee with dignity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I don't see how the agent can get the blame for this even if he did book it. It was a tragic accident. Hopefully a investigation can be done to find out the cause wss it bad weather engine fault or human error. If its the latter then their will be questions to be answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: What is the implication here then? That Cardiff / Warnock have done something wrong? "I only booked and paid for the flight" - that's kind of a big deal Willie and it's nothing like booking a taxi, unless there's more than 4 of you the size and type of taxi is irrelevant. If you're flying across the channel, at night, then I think the size and type of plane is quite important, as well as the experience level of the pilot............hard to see anything other than he tried to do it on the cheap and now he's lashing out as a defence mechanism cos he knows that in some form he's at least partly responsible. I would have sympathy for him but he's a football agent and tantamount to pond-scum as far as I'm concerned. Surely his point is that he just booked the flight through a 3rd party company or similar. I have a player that I need to fly to Cardiff, can you do it? Ok here's the money. If you phoned a taxi company to book a cab for your mate and on the trip the wheels fell off the taxi and your mate was killed in the accident, would you get the blame for booking it? If the agent specifically went with some dodgy arrangement, cutting corners and costs to get this specific flight then absolutely he takes some blame. If all he did was book the flight through some legit third party company then I think I can see his point. Edited February 20, 2019 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 It seems like the behaviour of a paranoid madman to contact a company that provides flights, to grill them on the likelihood of crashing in to the sea. I think it's fair to assume that the company you're paying for the flights should be expected to perform the necessary due diligence in regards to crashing in to the sea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Surely his point is that he just booked the flight through a 3rd party company or similar. I have a player that I need to fly to Cardiff, can you do it? Ok here's the money. If you phoned a taxi company to book a cab for your mate and on the trip the wheels fell off the taxi and your mate was killed in the accident, would you get the blame for booking it? If the agent specifically went with some dodgy arrangement, cutting corners and costs to get this specific flight then absolutely he takes some blame. If all he did was book the flight through some legit third party company then I think I can see his point. Just seems odd to me that an £18m player, record signing for Cardiff and no doubt the vehicle for a nice little bonus for the agent(s) can end up on such a shite little plane, flown by a guy who was not qualified. The agent may be completely blameless, he may have tried to shave some extra money for himself, who knows. I'm erring on the side of the Agent being in the wrong though as I'd love nothing more than to see that entire profession crumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I still find it hard to believe a Premier League club would ask an agent to arrange a flight from France Surely they have staff who does this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I'm erring on the side of the Agent being in the wrong though as I'd love nothing more than to see that entire profession crumble. That seems like an entirely rational thought process... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/02/20/emiliano-sala-signed-potentially-invalid-contract-cardiff-city/amp/?__twitter_impression=true hmmm, this is getting smellier by the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Cardiff really are showing their true colours of they are trying to worm their way out of paying the fee. Disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2019 There’s going to be more of this sort of stuff, isn’t there? Quote Emiliano Sala was "abandoned" by Cardiff City and had to arrange his own travel in a £15m transfer from Nantes, says ex-football agent Willie McKay. McKay's son Mark was Nantes' acting agent in the deal for the footballer, who died in a plane crash last month. Willie McKay arranged the flight that crashed in the English Channel, killing Sala, 28, and pilot David Ibbotson. "He was abandoned in a hotel more or less to do his travel arrangements himself," Willie McKay said. Cardiff have previously stated they had offered to book a commercial flight for Sala. Willie McKay is not a registered agent but when asked why he was involved in the Sala deal, he replied: "I was helping my son." BBC link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Shropshire Lad said: There’s going to be more of this sort of stuff, isn’t there? BBC link This really is getting messy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Cardiff has made claims to fifa that Salas contract was invalid. They truly are trying their best not to pay a dime. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skruff said: Cardiff has made claims to fifa that Salas contract was invalid. They truly are trying their best not to pay a dime. Disgusting. Absolutely disgraceful. If he wasn't 'your' player why did you do all the tributes? Why did you dedicate games to him? I think that is absolutely horrendous behaviour form cardiff city. They should be ashamed of themselves Edited March 25, 2019 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Also it invites a fine tooth comb examination of all players contracts. Imagine if Cardiff stay up? If there is one tiny mistake in any contract I hope they're hauled over the coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 25, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 25, 2019 I didn't like sympathising with Cardiff or Colin when all of this happened. So I'm glad they're showing themselves up and I can revert to hating them again. Natural world order restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 They're really risking their reputation here aren't they?! Bit of a silly move in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Rumoured transfer fee was £15m, wasn't it? Currently occupying the final relegation place in the Premier League - and we're all aware of the pressures of FFP. May well be seen as a dick move, but the club could be in jeopardy, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 step 1 insurance, insurance says no then step 2 would be point the finger at another party* step 3 would then either be a) look at the human cost and take a judgement to stomach the costs (maybe asking FIFA for permission for it not to impact FFP) or b) get your team of shady lawyers to find a loop hole in the contract * its believed that they will submit something saying the PL had rejected the deal so in effect they are blaming them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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