Sulberto21 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 After the first five minutes and when Emery had a quick tactical chat with him and adjusted his position I felt he made a couple of good tackles and blocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 For years he was seen as undroppable for some strange reasons. Must be some reality check for him. Hopefully it will raise his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I don’t think Emery will be unprofessional and freeze him out we might see him come on to see games out like yesterday again, I don’t think he’s technically good enough to play in this team it seems like the beginning Of the end for him here but it would be nice to see him go out positively it wasn’t his fault that Gerrard Picked him every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 He’s the kind of player you want coming on for the last 30 mins in an advanced position, hassling and harrying defenders and the oppositions deep lying midfielders. He’d be a nightmare to play against in that scenario I feel. I think he’ll probably be one we look to move on in the Summer as he’ll still fetch a decent price and Emery will want to bring in his own midfielders. I can actually see him, Sanson and Nakamba leaving potentially. Will be fondly remembered if he does leave. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: He’s the kind of player you want coming on for the last 30 mins in an advanced position, hassling and harrying defenders and the oppositions deep lying midfielders. He’d be a nightmare to play against in that scenario I feel. I think he’ll probably be one we look to move on in the Summer as he’ll still fetch a decent price and Emery will want to bring in his own midfielders. I can actually see him, Sanson and Nakamba leaving potentially. Will be fondly remembered if he does leave. Pretty much this. He's a top of the Championship/Bottom of the PL player. Not good enough to be starting for a team with top half/European ambitions. But he could be useful as a squad player. With 20-30 mins to go and opposition stating to tire, he's perfect to bring on as he'll not stop running until the final whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 hours ago, duke313 said: Pretty much this. He's a top of the Championship/Bottom of the PL player. Not good enough to be starting for a team with top half/European ambitions. But he could be useful as a squad player. With 20-30 mins to go and opposition stating to tire, he's perfect to bring on as he'll not stop running until the final whistle. The only problem with this is that he won't tire the opposition out as he runs as fast as a post office and his passing is wonky and laborious. Time to say tarrah a bit. I don't dislike him as a person as others have said, but his personality is almost meaningless to me. I'd sooner have a shithouse who has an impact on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Competition in midfield is about to get intense. Donck has impressed, Sanson is back from limbo, Kamara is back from injury, Doug and JJ are at their best, Buendia may now be used in midfield instead of the forward line...McGinn may not be completely frozen out, but he's going to have a much harder time getting into the side. That said, I always thought that McGinn's skill set would fit better in a 4-man midfield than a 3-man midfield. He could thrive when Unai plays 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, TomC said: Competition in midfield is about to get intense. Donck has impressed, Sanson is back from limbo, Kamara is back from injury, Doug and JJ are at their best, Buendia may now be used in midfield instead of the forward line...McGinn may not be completely frozen out, but he's going to have a much harder time getting into the side. That said, I always thought that McGinn's skill set would fit better in a 4-man midfield than a 3-man midfield. He could thrive when Unai plays 4-4-2. We played 4-4-2 yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: We played 4-4-2 yesterday Agreed, it was mostly 4-4-2 yesterday, but Unai has been known to change from match to match or within a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, TomC said: Agreed, it was mostly 4-4-2 yesterday, but Unai has been known to change from match to match or within a match. Yes we were changing within the match yesterday it was a fluid formation. I don’t know where John fits in though he’s to one dimensional to play most roles, I think coming on as a pressing forward or advanced cam to see games out will be his role for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, TomC said: Competition in midfield is about to get intense. Donck has impressed, Sanson is back from limbo, Kamara is back from injury, Doug and JJ are at their best, Buendia may now be used in midfield instead of the forward line...McGinn may not be completely frozen out, but he's going to have a much harder time getting into the side. That said, I always thought that McGinn's skill set would fit better in a 4-man midfield than a 3-man midfield. He could thrive when Unai plays 4-4-2. When he came on against United, the first thing he did was give the ball away. For a team with ambitions for top half and Europe, he’s at best a back up option. If we can get a decent price for him, we’d be mad not taking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, duke313 said: When he came on against United, the first thing he did was give the ball away. Exactly...but in a four man midfield, you can afford a player like that, because he doesn't need to be a playmaker or carrier. He can be "box-to-box" in the older sense...defend near our box, get in a position to shooot near their box, and do nothing in between. Those are his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, duke313 said: When he came on against United, the first thing he did was give the ball away. For a team with ambitions for top half and Europe, he’s at best a back up option. If we can get a decent price for him, we’d be mad not taking it. 100% agree, thats not me being nasty, but if we could get a good price for him i would definitely consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 In the '10' role tonight? Might suit him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Clean Slate time lets give him a chance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 This role will suit him more than whatever he was asked to do under Gerrard. Id love him to have a stormer tonight and prove people (and me) wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Xela said: In the '10' role tonight? Might suit him Yep and hope we see the original John McGinn not the mouldy meatball we've had to endure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, Xela said: In the '10' role tonight? Might suit him i would guess he starts on the left of a 442 and cuts in to midfield like Buendia did from the left in the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Poor old John just can’t find any form. He looks totally lost out there tonight. I hope he can turn it around but it’s seeming to look less and less likely. A goal would do him the world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 He looks unfit and slightly overweight. Wondering what the issue is. He’s definitely a better player than his form suggests, hope he can fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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