PieFacE Posted March 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Farcical VAR call for United. Shocked Crazy goal to rule out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Farcical VAR call for United. Shocked Brilliant goal as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 12, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2021 On 10/03/2021 at 22:27, a m ole said: It’s literally the only reason the D exists! This! What do people think that D is for if it's not to stand behind for a penalty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 15, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) I can't find the post but I posted in here a while back predicting that we would eventually get to a stage where offside was automatic, much like you see on video games. The players and line of the last man would be tracked automatically and give an instant offside decision. It sounds like that is closer than I thought. I'm not sure if this is necessary, but it certainly sounds like a better solution than the **** that is VAR offside decisions in their current form. TL;DR? Semi automated offside currently being developed. Goal of being operational for the 2022 world cup (but pandemic may have made that too difficult). To be in place for domestic leagues by 2023/24 at the earliest. Won't provide a decision, but will provide enough evidence to make a decision within 3 seconds of the pass being made which would then be relayed to the assistant to raise his flag. Most cases it will be instant. Would remove almost all VAR delays for offside, and would remove uncertainty around goals being celebrated (or not celebrated) for fear of offside . I would also remove the need for delayed flag raises that we have today. By far the worst part of VAR for me, so this sounds positive Edited March 15, 2021 by Stevo985 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Zatman said: Basically exactly what I’ve been saying since day dot on this but framed far more eloquently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 to show VAR is not a fair system, its available in some World Cup qualifiers but not all of them. Bullshit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Zatman said: to show VAR is not a fair system, its available in some World Cup qualifiers but not all of them. Bullshit It is bullshit. France goal was both offside and handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Leganes have just been given a 97th minute penalty against Almeria in the Spanish Segunda Division. The Leganes player runs across attacking a corner and jumps into the Almeria defender as he's heading the ball clear. If anything, it's a foul by the attacking player. The decision has gone to VAR and been given as a penalty. It's an atrocious decision. Edited March 27, 2021 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Here are the highlights - I missed the red card decision when watching, that was also atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, bobzy said: Leganes have just been given a 97th minute penalty against Almeria in the Spanish Segunda Division. The Leganes player runs across attacking a corner and jumps into the Almeria defender as he's heading the ball clear. If anything, it's a foul by the attacking player. The decision has gone to VAR and been given as a penalty. It's an atrocious decision. Absolutely horrendous, hard to believe it's not intentional cheating by the ref given it was reviewed by VAR. Vid from twitter Edited March 28, 2021 by ThunderPower_14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Literally can be no other explanation for that other than it being intentionally corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) That really shouldn’t be possible. I can’t begin to imagine how angry I would be if it happened to us. Or, wait, I can: Ollie at West Ham. I don’t think I can get angrier than I was then. But this was an even worse decision. How a professional referee can look at that and call it a pen is impossible to understand. Edited March 28, 2021 by El Zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 hours ago, El Zen said: That really shouldn’t be possible. I can’t begin to imagine how angry I would be if it happened to us. Or, wait, I can: Ollie at West Ham. I don’t think I can get angrier than I was then. But this was an even worse decision. How a professional referee can look at that and call it a pen is impossible to understand. The Watkins west ham goal was a disgraceful call, i am still furious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 29, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 24/03/2021 at 22:10, Zatman said: to show VAR is not a fair system, its available in some World Cup qualifiers but not all of them. Bullshit I've never really understood why this is seen as an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: I've never really understood why this is seen as an issue. For me it should be in all or nothing as doesn't seem to be fair. Goal line technology has been removed from the qualifiers for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 What on earth is that penalty decision? Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 29, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Zatman said: For me it should be in all or nothing as doesn't seem to be fair. Goal line technology has been removed from the qualifiers for that reason I don't see why it's not fair. That argument doesn't make sense to me. Goalline technology is used in the FA Cup when some grounds can't have it. Should that be taken away? Just because some games have better technology than others doesn't make it unfair, it just means those games are (in theory at least) fairer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I think it depends whether you subscribe to the fairly nebulous idea that "these things even themselves out". I can see why it'd feel like the most outrageous thing in the world if a goal is incorrectly given against you due to a lack of technology, then you correctly have one ruled out in another game in the same competition due to different rules being enforced. The idea that we make the entire tournament fairer by making individual games less fair doesn't really stand up to me though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think it depends whether you subscribe to the fairly nebulous idea that "these things even themselves out". I can see why it'd feel like the most outrageous thing in the world if a goal is incorrectly given against you due to a lack of technology, then you correctly have one ruled out in another game in the same competition due to different rules being enforced. The idea that we make the entire tournament fairer by making individual games less fair doesn't really stand up to me though. Ireland vs Serbia, Connolly was taken out in the box but no VAR to look at it. When Ireland play in Portugal later in the group they will have VAR to give a Bruno special Countries are being punished for being poor in football terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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