sidcow Posted April 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2022 The pen is mightier than a sword. Thing is I'm not so confident that it's more powerful than a 9K720 Iskander missile. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Are you saying that me organising a Thursday night clap isn't going to work? Look I’ve tried everything, I’ve even changed my twitter header to blue and yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Come on everyone, time to do your bit. We're down to the last few signatures (citation needed) to force Putin to stop. Thank xxxx for that. It was starting to get messy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: I wonder though if that “us against the world” attitude is something human beings in general (not just Russians) are very good at adapting to. North Korea, Mourinho’s first Chelsea team, the punk rock revivalists Towers of London… they all just learn embrace the hatred and the pariah status, it becomes a positive part of your identity. There is a reason history keeps repeating itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Are you saying that me organising a Thursday night clap isn't going to work? It would have. Unfortunately the country was forced to use the last reserves of clapping power getting Boris out of the ICU and raising enough funds in Captain Tom Moore's memory to make it worthwhile for his family to embezzle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2022 Sounds like it's really kicking off in Ukraine now. Zelensky and other senior sources saying intense battles and next phase of the war has begun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 One for history’s calendar, a battle to define not just Ukraine’s future but the security of Europe. Let’s hope we’ve reinforced them enough to halt Russian forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) Why is this new offensive a big deal? I thought they already controlled the Donbas region. Edited April 18, 2022 by Nicho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I can't get over how crazy these close to real-time updates are. Give it a few years and we'll be paying £9.99 a month for live-streams from warzones around the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, Davkaus said: I can't get over how crazy these close to real-time updates are. Give it a few years and we'll be paying £9.99 a month for live-streams from warzones around the globe. Gulf War II Watched a fair bit of that live, I had to get up early and would stick the tv on for an hour and watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Nicho said: Why is this new offensive a big deal? I thought they already controlled the Donbas region. Russians controlled about a third of the Donbas before 24th of Feb. They’ve taken a little more since then but Ukraine still controls at least half of the region. As of this evening anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, Awol said: Russians controlled about a third of the Donbas before 24th of Feb. They’ve taken a little more since then but Ukraine still controls at least half of the region. As of this evening anyway. This is a really tough situation. The Donbas region has been pro-Russian for however long, they have declared themselves independent already… part of me thinks.. just let them leave and be absorbed by Russia? But then of course there is the argument of not letting Russia get what it wants… will Russia think it has enough land if it takes the Donbas, and the strip leading to the Crimea? Or will it continue further inland? I just can’t see how this ends… What do you make of it Awol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tayls said: This is a really tough situation. The Donbas region has been pro-Russian for however long, they have declared themselves independent already… part of me thinks.. just let them leave and be absorbed by Russia? But then of course there is the argument of not letting Russia get what it wants… will Russia think it has enough land if it takes the Donbas, and the strip leading to the Crimea? Or will it continue further inland? I just can’t see how this ends… What do you make of it Awol? Who says the Donbas is pro-Russian? You need to realise that any declaration of Russianness is completely manufactured by Putin. The separatists were all Putin stooges. I'll also wager it’s far less pro-Russian now 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: I can't get over how crazy these close to real-time updates are. Give it a few years and we'll be paying £9.99 a month for live-streams from warzones around the globe. It will be on Sky along with Kabbadi when they lose the rights to the Premier League. If any consolation they might send Neville, Redknapp and the transfer goons live to the battlefield to cover it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, bickster said: Who says the Donbas is pro-Russian? You need to realise that any declaration of Russianness is completely manufactured by Putin. The separatists were all Putin stooges. I'll also wager it’s far less pro-Russian now 20,000 civilian deaths in Mariupol alone will be the deciding factor. Most of those murdered by Russians will all have family affected. Russia may gain land but they will never win hearts and minds of the population as a whole. They've well and truly made enemies of most Ukrainians now. And not just those in the South. It's just mental really. Russia don't even have the means to rebuild the region, the Cities they've destroyed and they'll never enjoy peace long enough to be able to try. It's just such a crazy decision to go about things the way they have. Edited April 18, 2022 by avfc1982am 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted April 19, 2022 I don't think the Ukrainians even have to aim any more. I think most people have actually lost count of how many times this has happened. 15, 16, 17? (EDIT: 17th time now apparently) Its where the Ukraine forces farm for XP 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, bickster said: I don't think the Ukrainians even have to aim any more. I think most people have actually lost count of how many times this has happened. 15, 16, 17? (EDIT: 17th time now apparently) Its where the Ukraine forces farm for XP Someone should make a sped up video of all 17 with Benny Hill music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Damn.....Check the guy silhouetted when the camera pans left. Serious fireworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted April 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Some comments suggest it's a training video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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