thabucks Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Mentioned Stam yesterday but no one took the bait. Missed that... he ticks a lot of boxes, knows the league, plays attractive football and in the the summer he will only have a year left on his deal. He is now my first choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Stam and Wagner are non runners and if they were interested now I wouldn't be interested. Both look like very good managers doing excellent jobs but if they were the type to leave their teams in the lurch while in the hunt for promotion to go to a relegation struggler for more money it wouldn't reflect well on their personalities. In the summer sure if circumstances are right. Edited February 21, 2017 by Kuwabatake Sanjuro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, thabucks said: Jaap Stam has done wonders at Reading should try and poach him. He is more realistic than Wagner IMO. Murat Yakin?! Dennis Bergkamp?! Insert random name here ?!......... someone progressive who can build something an ethos. To develop talent and to be tactically astute. We have some good technical players who are wasted under the current old school tactically clueless manager. Wanted Yakin for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If Wagner doesnt get promoted i cant see Huddersfield having another good season. Makes sense for him to drop to league 1 with us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 hours ago, KSV said: If Wagner doesnt get promoted i cant see Huddersfield having another good season. Makes sense for him to drop to league 1 with us If they don't have another good season, surely he wouldn't be a good manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam3773 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I want Garde back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 20:47, sheepyvillian said: With our financial clout, I'd take Hoddle now . Imo he's one of the best British coaches out there. England played the best football I've seen in my lifetime, under him . This idea that Hoddle is some sort of 'great' coach is one of the biggest myths of the past few years. Go back 20 years and you may have a point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 20:47, sheepyvillian said: With our financial clout, I'd take Hoddle now . Imo he's one of the best British coaches out there. England played the best football I've seen in my lifetime, under him . This idea that Hoddle is some sort of 'great' coach is one of the biggest myths of the past few years. Go back 20 years and you may have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 20:47, sheepyvillian said: With our financial clout, I'd take Hoddle now . Imo he's one of the best British coaches out there. England played the best football I've seen in my lifetime, under him . This idea that Hoddle is some sort of 'great' coach is one of the biggest myths of the past few years. Go back 20 years and you may have a point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2017 Staam and Wagner are the standard flavour of the month managers. Do a great job at one club, get a big move and then suddenly aren't so good. Not saying that will happen to them, they might be the real thing. But we've seen the same countless times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: This idea that Hoddle is some sort of 'great' coach is one of the biggest myths of the past few years. Go back 20 years and you may have a point. Didn't quite catch that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Staam and Wagner are the standard flavour of the month managers. Do a great job at one club, get a big move and then suddenly aren't so good. Not saying that will happen to them, they might be the real thing. But we've seen the same countless times before. That's true but in Wagner case particularly I see a man heading to great things as a manager . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: If they don't have another good season, surely he wouldn't be a good manager? He's doing a great job but he's batting above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Villa Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 What are teh chances of the chances of the Mail writing something like this any time soon about our Manager and Team? http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/sheffield-wednesday-1-2-brentford-12638318 Give Smith a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyavfc Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I was watching this video earlier. It really depressed me seeing how far we've fallen in the last 8-10 years. I would love MON to be back managing us, I don't care how he left, and seeing how much Lerner ended up running us in to the ground I can see why he left (even if he was part of the problem with wages). One problem he never had was getting the best out of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Staam and Wagner are the standard flavour of the month managers. Do a great job at one club, get a big move and then suddenly aren't so good. Not saying that will happen to them, they might be the real thing. But we've seen the same countless times before. Well we currently have tried and tested and look how that is working out. Give me flavour of the month, Young & innovative who can tactically alter a game preemptively rather than a relic of yesteryear whose default position is to drop deep and try and nick something on the counter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, thabucks said: Well we currently have tried and tested and look how that is working out. Give me flavour of the month, Young & innovative who can tactically alter a game preemptively rather than a relic of yesteryear whose default position is to drop deep and try and nick something on the counter. Just like Lambert. Or Sherwood. Or Garde. "Young and innovative" usually translates to "gamble". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Just like Lambert. Or Sherwood. Or Garde. "Young and innovative" usually translates to "gamble". Well Bruce is the opposite and once again look how that has panned out? How did McCleish work out? Lambert & Garde worked under a difficult set of circumstances which helped conspire against them I believe things would of turned out differently if they were afforded the same levels of finance O'Neil was. Sherwood had nothing to back his gob up. All managers are a gamble. Just depends on what route you want to take. I never wanted Bruce as he is tactically clueless and his teams never have any clear identity and he has never been renowned at developing talent. But each to ones own I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2017 Yes, it's almost like it's something else that's making the fans turn on managers in double quick time. Not whether he's young, or old. Tried or untried. Granted, the results being poor is a constant but then that was always going to take time. We knew that as fans. I just can't put my finger on what is making the fans turn so quickly. Any fans know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, thabucks said: Well Bruce is the opposite and once again look how that has panned out? How did McCleish work out? Lambert & Garde worked under a difficult set of circumstances which helped conspire against them I believe things would of turned out differently if they were afforded the same levels of finance O'Neil was. Sherwood had nothing to back his gob up. All managers are a gamble. Just depends on what route you want to take. I never wanted Bruce as he is tactically clueless and his teams never have any clear identity and he has never been renowned at developing talent. But each to ones own I guess. Can a man who is tactically clueless manage to fluke 4 promotions ? I think he has made some bad mistakes but in his first 12 games he took a team it's one win in 19 to promotion winning form with 23 points in 12 games - this run of results since new year has been shocking and there are some reasons that can be given i.e. Losing kodija , jedinak etc but Bruce has also made big errors - the trigger point is not here yet for me . should he lose to derby, Bristol and Rotherham then that probably would be the trigger point but I really doubt it will happen . Edited February 22, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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