Ratings and Reactions: Villa v Ipswich

[Harry]

17 minutes ago, terrytini said:

Thanks Stesgy saved me reviewing it agree with your assessments.

Keepers kicking, Lansbury playing on the edge of our own box, Taylor's woeful debut, and awful team selection were the lowlights for me.

I disagree with those who say Ipswich flukes it we always thought they looked more purposeful and played the more threatening football.

One good moment, Lansbury doing that brilliant dummy second half.

'They looked more purposeful'.....that pretty much sums up everyone who plays us these days. 

In a few words; we are laughing stock and pretty much the easiest three points around.  Every manager of the sides we play has a massive stiffy knowing he can beat the 'mighty Villa'.

Keep it tight and well organised and Villa will self destruct.

 

[sheepyvillian]

11 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

So we can laugh at whoever voted for Westwood...oh...

I think you'll find he's gone to Burnley. 

[rjw63]

1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said:

I think you'll find he's gone to Burnley. 

[Villan_of_oz]

So it is still Westwood's fault? 

[sheepyvillian]

50 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

See, you learn something new everyday. A thank you would be nice. 

[The Fun Factory]

Our chances to  goals ratio has to be the worse in the football league. I don't even get excited when we have a clear one-on-one as I know that they will fluff it. Sad really. 29 goals in 30 matches and I reckon at least 5 of those are penalties.  Pathetic.

[OutByEaster?]

1 hour ago, terrytini said:

One good moment, Lansbury doing that brilliant dummy second half.

I don't recall it. Don't tell me I missed the best moment of the match?

 

[sheepyvillian]

6 hours ago, AVFCDAN said:

16th in the championship with 2/3 of the season gone, its barely believeable.

just for reference Huddersfield have 22 more points than us, no disrespect to them but the day we are aspiring to be like Huddersfield is the time when you know we are done as a football club.

I don't think we're aspiring to be anyone. We don't have to, we're Aston Villa and that speaks for itself. The fact is ,we have a terrible manager, who even with good players at his disposal ,seems destined to failure. All that money for that garbage. 

[flashingqwerty]

The complete disparity between the managers chosen tactics and the players we signed in jan tells me Bruce didnt choose the signings.

Our tactics appear to be to defend, lump it forward and hope one of our forwards does it all on his own.

Then why go and sign two of the best ball players in the division if your tactics are to bypass midfield?

It just doesnt add up to me and i think if villa are to improve it needs to be under a different manager.

[terrytini]

1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said:

I don't recall it. Don't tell me I missed the best moment of the match?

 

Thankfully my memory is already fading.

But it was maybe 70 minutes in on our right (going forward) around the halfway line. He was virtually on the touch line, someone did the overlap thingy and, facing our goal he 'gave it the eyes' and - although just like the best magicians I can't explain exactly what he did - feigned a pass inside but actually did a sort of back/side heel thing down the line.

At least that's how I recall it.

And yes, it was the best moment.

I feel your pain.

 

[terrytini]

41 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said:

The complete disparity between the managers chosen tactics and the players we signed in jan tells me Bruce didnt choose the signings.

Our tactics appear to be to defend, lump it forward and hope one of our forwards does it all on his own.

Then why go and sign two of the best ball players in the division if your tactics are to bypass midfield?

It just doesnt add up to me and i think if villa are to improve it needs to be under a different manager.

I've been thinking that. 

Anyone else think his program notes also hinted at that ?

[flamingsombrero]

 

 

[AJ]

Why should I care? Its only football. Its not like we lost a war or anything like that. This doesn't make me richer or poorer. My life goes on, and I have a good life. Heck, it didn't even happen in my country. So what if a random collection of guys wearing the same shirt couldn't kick a ball into a net more often than another random collection of guys wearing a different shirt? I will get up in the morning tomorrow to go to work, and do the things I have to do to make my life happen, and what happens many thousands of miles away on the weekend should not effect that in any way whatsoever. But, despite all this....

....why cant I help feeling so miserable?

 

[PompeyVillan]

I can't understand why for the life of me we are playing a 352 at home with two fullbacks known for their lack of quality going forward.

It's as if he's trying to protect the new midfield, but in doing so he's curtailing their ability to do anything going forward. It was clumsy and disjointed, Kodjia kept dropping so deep, at one point he was back helping Taylor by the cornerflag.

We kept booting it long to Kodjia and Hogan and neither are great at holding the ball up and both will need good service to be effective.

[villa4europe]

I didn't think baker looked comfortable and was the main culprit in aimless long balls, he was in the ciaran clark school of blindly hitting 40 yard floaty shit balls forward to no one

the 3 CBs was a shocking decision, assuming it was because of jedinak missing, I don't think any of those 3 played particularly well, Lansbury still played deep anyway, the 2 wing backs didn't get forward, I'm not saying it can't work but it doesn't work if you play it that way, it should have enabled everyone to play further up the pitch

awful game, I left in about the 92nd minute when someone played a shit ball for green but green barely made an effort to chase it down, won't be going Tuesday, blues at home and probably burton away might be my only 2 games left this season now

[Nigel]

My only hope is that one game this season im going to enjoy watching a game more than obes write up!

[ermie123]

I went to yesterdays match travelling up from South Wales.  On watching the game and doing it intentionally from a neutral view I could see the differences in both teams play and i also reflected back on the games against Brentford, Forest and Wolves.  One thing that stood out was the way that they were all comfortable with the ball and made great efforts to get it back.  As opposed to Villa whose players seemed to have this idea that it was something to be avoided and when they did have it to hoof it (apart from Lansbury).  

The other teams also played as a team and did put the effort in and it would appear that Villa players do not actually put in a shift!  

In regard to Kodja yesterday he did start passing, but his service from the others was so woeful he may as well go back to doing it himself, that also includes Hogan who cut a very forlorn figure yesterday.  He must be wondering just what (at the moment), joining Villa is going to do for his career.

On numerous occasions Villa players got the ball back and then gave it back to the opposition, which was very frustrating.  Taylor, Hutton and Baker being the worst three.  In regard to the formation the 532 yesterday Hutton was so far up the pitch, with Taylor being so far down the pitch highlighted the disjointed nature of the team.  Lansbury is an attacking midfielder, but was playing just in front of the defence, which meant that there was no attacking midfield.  

What should have happened yesterday in particular was Lansbury be up the pitch as say a N10 and the other two being support for both defence and attack.  The wing backs should have been based on the half way line and moved up the pitch in tandem, which stretches the opposition.  The three centre backs should be further up the pitch and not being so deep.  This would mean the play would have nearly all have been in the opposition half and not ours.  I think its called defending from the front.  

There is also something that others have seemingly not picked up on and it is this.  When the opposition have a corner ALL the Villa players are back defending, which meant that when the ball went up the pitch it just came straight back!  This has been going on for a few seasons now and is ridiculous. 

Throw ins also appear to be a problem as when do get a throw in nobody wants the ball.  Whoever takes it is looking for someone to come for it and nobody does.  Its pretty basic football that Villa fail to do.

Suffice to say i left Villa Park feeling very frustrated, freezing cold with the highlight of the day being the chicken balti pie and the extra one i kept to be eaten on the way home.  

[jackdaww]

On 11/02/2017 at 18:19, OutByEaster? said:

We're not great to watch, we're disjointed, we don't pass the ball well, we go long too easily and not very effectively, our movement is limited and we're not particularly hard working off the ball. We are however, quite effective in terms of creating half chances and the occasional decent one; if you don't take those chances though, you're just ugly for no reason. Today was ugly.

So, it's crap, it feels crap, we're horrible to watch and we've somehow managed to lose to a team who had one shot on target in a game where we've hit the bar, should have had a penalty and forced half a dozen decent saves out of their keeper. I'm annoyed, I'm angry, but I'm prepared to submit that despite all of our faults it's still taken a big chunk of bad luck to stop us winning the game today. I'm squeezing that straw until breaks.

i didnt see the game so this plausible post helps a lot .

although the highlights show we had many more chances created than recently , the overall performance is little better , and some of our new players are just not effective.

we need a massive improvement just to keep out of the bottom 6 .

[OutByEaster?]

2 hours ago, ermie123 said:

Throw ins also appear to be a problem as when do get a throw in nobody wants the ball.  Whoever takes it is looking for someone to come for it and nobody does.  Its pretty basic football that Villa fail to do.

This exactly - in yesterday's game, every time we had a throw in inside our own half, there was a danger we'd be under attack. We're the worst throw in team I've ever seen. 

 

[ermie123]

I really don't think that Ipswich "fluked it" at all.  Being at the match i and several others around me could see it coming in the second half and the half progressed it seemed inevitable.  The young player they had Lawrence i think played a very astute game and it was him who we thought was most likely going to score of anyone on the pitch.  They bossed the midfield for most of the game.  Our defence now looks very nervous and it infects the rest of them.  This bunch of players need some serious coaching to get them to play as a team and i can't see it happening at present.