villa4europe Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 theres a video of a bloke hiding behind a concrete column and leaning round firing off a couple of shots at a time, its not a pistol for self defence, its not a rifle for sport, it looks like he's got an assault rifle... even those who can defend the gun laws in the states for various reasons, how could you possibly explain why he would need that kind of weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I don't quite understand how you can walk down the street with a rifle slung over your arm and aren't deemed a threat to anyone but if you announce you have a license for conceal carry and then reach for your ID the police then have carte blanche to shoot you dead. Its just a big mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 picture of him, turned up to a peaceful protest in combat fatigues and a rifle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 58 minutes ago, villa4europe said: picture of him, turned up to a peaceful protest in combat fatigues and a rifle... In the video of his 'arrest' his associates we saying "we don't play anymore" in reference to the shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: theres a video of a bloke hiding behind a concrete column and leaning round firing off a couple of shots at a time, its not a pistol for self defence, its not a rifle for sport, it looks like he's got an assault rifle... even those who can defend the gun laws in the states for various reasons, how could you possibly explain why he would need that kind of weapon? There's really no justification to be able to buy a military grade fully automatic weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Stop the world I want to get off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Racism and Firearms, 2 issues the US has deeply engrained in its culture and now they are combining in devastating fashion. Even the president is powerless to make any real impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 The majority of the US is absolutely mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Might have only been one shooter now in Dallas and he was targeting white police officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Just read the suspect was killed by the robot used to disarm bombs? Wtf was it like terminator or something? #Skynetistakingover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 It is mental what's going on in the US. Read about the shootings yesterday and found other stories from recent shootings. Like Dylan Noble a 19-year old white guy in Fresno which death seems a little suspect reading about it. Didn't make the news over here and it shouldn't really but it just shows that it happens a lot. Police on the edge and to much guns in circulation is a very bad combination. NRA will argue that people need more guns to protect themselves, sad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2016 Just had the misfortune of watching CNN for a moment. How do the Yanks put up with this shit? In only a few minutes watching I saw some of the worst television journalism I've ever seen, and then some absolute moron claiming that hatred and the song 'Cop Killer' (are we in 19fucking90?!) have more to do with last night's shooting than guns. I'm sorry, but I can have an incredible capacity for hatred, and I can listen to Cop Killer on hard repeat for a month, and with the best will in the world is struggle to kill anyone, let alone 5 cops. But give me an assault rifle and I'll have the capacity to clear out the city's last enforcement if I fancy it (which for the avoidance I absolutely do not). Absolutely ludicrous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 hours ago, AshVilla said: Just read the suspect was killed by the robot used to disarm bombs? Wtf was it like terminator or something? #Skynetistakingover That's what I thought. Armed suspect is holed up so R2D2 is sent in to chuck a grenade at him Appalling few days in 'Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, Chindie said: How do the Yanks put up with this shit? In only a few minutes watching I saw some of the worst television journalism I've ever seen, It's brutal. I was watching Sky News coverage of the Dallas shootings, and it was like I was listening to adults not snot nosed shitheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 It's really hard not to feel totally hopeless about this country. I'm going to a protest tonight, and in the back of my mind I wonder if some psycho redneck is gonna pull up and start shooting. It's a legitimate fear. Imagine being stuck deep in the ghetto though. Bullets fly at you from all directions, every day. Every big city in America has a little war zone of it's own. People have no future. The middle class is disappearing, the working class is being pushed to the brink..homeless are everywhere, people are paranoid and reactionary, and gun sales are at an all time high. I read today that more American civilians have been killed by gunfire over the last 10 years than all the American soldiers killed in WW2. I'm just assuming that it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Yet after all this, the Americans think having a gun is a good thing. They mock that our police can't do their jobs correctly without carrying guns.... Absolutely moronic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Murder rate halved different figures flaoting around on different sites for the U.S., but all would suggest these are the peaceful times. Figures range between 3.9 to 6 murders per 100,000 citizens. All surveys however they count and categorise suggest it was double that in the 70's, 80's and 90's doesn't take away from anything, but, you know, stats... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 8, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 8, 2016 7 hours ago, AVFCDAN said: I don't quite understand how you can walk down the street with a rifle slung over your arm and aren't deemed a threat to anyone but if you announce you have a license for conceal carry and then reach for your ID the police then have carte blanche to shoot you dead. Its just a big mess. You weren't wrong in ymthe 4th word of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 23 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Murder rate halved different figures flaoting around on different sites for the U.S., but all would suggest these are the peaceful times. Figures range between 3.9 to 6 murders per 100,000 citizens. All surveys however they count and categorise suggest it was double that in the 70's, 80's and 90's doesn't take away from anything, but, you know, stats... It's still a crisis. And what's worse is gun ownership has rocketed while gun laws have loosened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, maqroll said: It's still a crisis. And what's worse is gun ownership has rocketed while gun laws have loosened. yes, still 4 or 5 times higher than in other broadly comparable countries such as UK, Ireland, Denamark, Italy, Croatia, Romania....and that's after having somehow halved the rate For me as an uninformed bystander, I do wonder how much the lines are blurred between life being tough on black people and life being tough on poor people. But then I guess the correlation is also that you are very likely to be poor if you are black, so you get sort of double screwed as a poor black person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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