sidcow Posted June 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2023 13 hours ago, villa4europe said: If I had to guess I would say that the tender prices returned have come in over the original cost plan because that cost plan was based on price indexes and KPIs that can't properly capture post corona and Ukraine war construction costs and theyre currently doing a value engineering exercise to get the costs down before appointing a main contractor I would guess that because that's completely normal Ah, the magic words. Look forward to that red brick facade being replaced by Trinity Road style metal sheeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: True - but the planning permission for this stand has been improved with the transport situation "as is" - other than the experience of fans attending, there's no transport reason for them not to go ahead. I wouldn't be surprised to see it start in July 2024. I agree. I'll only be worried about the expansion going ahead if - the UK and Ireland doesn't win the Euro 28 bid (to be announced in September?) and work hasn't started in time to complete by May 28. In theory, that could be as late as May 2026. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Ah, the magic words. Look forward to that red brick facade being replaced by Trinity Road style metal sheeting. That'd be a planning application amendment I think But the architect naming his mate as the brick supplier from Belgium when the black country is a hot bed for brick suppliers would be ripe for VE (and that's from experience too... Built a school in Stourbridge with Belgian bricks) can almost guarantee venesta will be sweating at the moment Its the same old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycv Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, villa4europe said: That'd be a planning application amendment I think But the architect naming his mate as the brick supplier from Belgium when the black country is a hot bed for brick suppliers would be ripe for VE (and that's from experience too... Built a school in Stourbridge with Belgian bricks) can almost guarantee venesta will be sweating at the moment Its the same old Agree that would be a planning variation. I'd like to see Villa provide a short update - perhaps from an introductory from Chris Heck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I don't see how gigs etc. would affect the build. The stage will be in front of the North Stand so any demolition works wouldn't really be in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted June 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Interesting. Thoughts? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted June 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, Rich192 said: Interesting. Thoughts? Villa Live canned maybe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Disappointing, sounds like a cost-cutting exercise. Mind you we all had doubts about a box park type development in Aston being sustainable outside of matchdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, villan-scott said: Villa Live canned maybe? Yeah, describing it as modest changes then describing something entirely different to what was planned. What are they actually saying they are and aren’t doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Yeah, describing it as modest changes then describing something entirely different to what was planned. What are they actually saying they are and aren’t doing? All adds to the general confusion about what is going on off the pitch. Sounds like this would be a new application. The original, original plan was for all of this to be demolished even before they talked about a new north stand. It is a glorified shed and is not fit for purpose, no matter how much refurbishment they are thinking about. Why is it that we are finally looking the business on the pitch, we are all over the shop of it yet again? SIgh. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Theme park mk2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I can't see these being minor changes. They seem to be getting rid of one proposed new building, refurbishing a tired old one, and then changing the elevations of the new stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: That'd be a planning application amendment I think Queue amendment submitted. The release leaked above doesn't mention supplier changes, but I guess that might be incorporated in the detail behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Is it me or is Purslow being scrubbed from recent history?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Well at least they still seem keen on building the stand, which is the main point but seems a shame the Villa Live idea has gone out of the window. Might be a casualty of the inflation costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Queue amendment submitted. The release leaked above doesn't mention supplier changes, but I guess that might be incorporated in the detail behind it. you don't have to do supplier changes you're free to do that, you have to submit material changes though so brick to cladding for example does sound like the project is over budget so they've decided to knock villa live on the head for the time being but then what makes that interesting is it also sounds like they're planning another project on the site and its live that gets pushed back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villadevon Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, sne said: Theme park mk2 Will there be height/weight restrictions for the rides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Might further explain the difficulty in the Witton Station upgrades. They were not in a financially healthy situation as is... Edited June 28, 2023 by wishywashy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted June 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Reading between the lines it sounds like the villa live building has been canned and aspects of it moved to a refurb of the academy building. The new shop and cafe/bar is moved into North Stand itself. To be honest as long as all the public realm improvements happen to level the ground and open up a new “villa way” as it was described I don’t think it is that big of a loss. The fan zone experience could still be done well outside with outdoor bars and food outlets etc. Edited June 28, 2023 by mikeyjavfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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