paul514 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: I wonder if there is a generation difference in views about moving and staying. Move with the times or get left behind. I'd be up for moving but there's no space in the city centre and there's no point moving unless we are. If we stay the whole stadium needs updating which is difficult when the trinity and DE stands are both on top of roads along with the lack of concourse space. Only so much you can do. Staying also saves us £500-600m, which I don't think we'd make that money back? . I don't think we would make it back for a VERY long time (several decades). I do however think the perfect place is Dale end if some rich benefactor who paid for it out of their own pocket wanted to build it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: As stands go the new Trinity is actually quite nice looking. It's just that it's compared to the absolute work of beauty that came before it that it's judged so harshly. Looks fine, even fairly impressive in the ground. Looks like a lego brick on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) The cost of any new stadium will be hundreds of millions and with an MLS franchise in the works and a new 25k seat purpose built stadium to fund. A new home for us is a non starter. That said the costs would be met via external funding and possibly the sale of naming rights and the debt would be over a 25-30 year period. If we are being honest modern football stadiums are about milking the fans of their cash and the newer stadiums with their large concourses and attractions are designed to do just that. Edited January 28, 2022 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: As stands go the new Trinity is actually quite nice looking. It's just that it's compared to the absolute work of beauty that came before it that it's judged so harshly. When they demolished the beautiful Trinity stand my sister happened to be around and noticed they were throwing away all the old claret and blue mosaic tiles.So she collected a huge bag full and we had plans to do something with them. Unfortunately her Bolton Wanderers supporting husband accidentally threw them out when he was tidying up and claims he didn’t know what they were.It’s still a cause of friction years later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted January 28, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) We have one of the last remaining truly historical English football grounds. Only really Villa Park, Anfield and Old Trafford left. Possibly Stamford Bridge but I would argue. White Hart Lane, Highbury, Main Road, Roker Park, Boleyn Ground, Baseball Ground, soon Goodison all gone. Villa Park should be cherished. Edited January 28, 2022 by sidcow 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Only2McInallys said: When they demolished the beautiful Trinity stand my sister happened to be around and noticed they were throwing away all the old claret and blue mosaic tiles.So she collected a huge bag full and we had plans to do something with them. Unfortunately her Bolton Wanderers supporting husband accidentally threw them out when he was tidying up and claims he didn’t know what they were.It’s still a cause of friction years later. Mate, I would go absolutely nuts over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: We have one of the last remaining truly historical English football grounds. Only really Villa Park, Anfield and Old Trafford left. Possibly Stamford Bridge but I would argue. White Hart Lane, Highbury, White Hart Lane, Main Road, Roker Park, Boleyn Ground, soon Goodison all gone. Villa Park should be cherished. It is unusual that we can still develop our ground where places like Goodison can't hence why they have to move. That is the sole reason why I don't think we will move from our current ground, possibly ever during our lifetime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, sne said: Agreed, would require a new stadium. Right, but a] we could not afford a stadium like that, b] the NFL would and will continue going to London rather than trekking to Birmingham no matter what, and c] we aren't going to build a new stadium, so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, paul514 said: It is unusual that we can still develop our ground where places like Goodison can't hence why they have to move. That is the sole reason why I don't think we will move from our current ground, possibly ever during our lifetime. Yes, most of those grounds were either impossible to expand or had deteriorated so badly it wasn't worth it. We have a very decent stadium with room where it is possible to expand. Old Trafford has shown what's possible. The land/house prices around Villa Park make it possible compared to eg Chelsea trying to buy surrounding properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Yes, most of those grounds were either impossible to expand or had deteriorated so badly it wasn't worth it. We have a very decent stadium with room where it is possible to expand. Old Trafford has shown what's possible. The land/house prices around Villa Park make it possible compared to eg Chelsea trying to buy surrounding properties. Doug Ellis is responsible for a lot of that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Right, but a] we could not afford a stadium like that, b] the NFL would and will continue going to London rather than trekking to Birmingham no matter what, and c] we aren't going to build a new stadium, so In the near future no, some day we are going to build a new stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 As interesting as all of this I can't think of anything else more to say until when/if the new plans come out. So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcomsimon Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Let’s knock resorts world down and build something by the lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, The Fun Factory said: As interesting as all of this I can't think of anything else more to say until when/if the new plans come out. So there. Yeah, just building a new North Stand may leave doors open for future moves, but if they announce that and eg an expanded Witton Lane stand taking us to 65,000 or something then we're staying for all time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Wonder if we ever did build a new stadium, could we just build it right beside if there is space. Spuds managed it. Guess it would lead to the issue of where to ground share in the interim period... I cant think of anywhere i'd want to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, PeterSw said: Wonder if we ever did build a new stadium, could we just build it right beside if there is space. Spuds managed it. Guess it would lead to the issue of where to ground share in the interim period... I cant think of anywhere i'd want to go! There isn’t enough space at present and would involve buying up all the houses on Nelson Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sne Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Could you have all that parking under ground instead and expand above it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 if everything in the red was owned by Villa we’d make lots of moolah on match days and quite a bit on non match days too. I suppose even down to the tavern and that factory in the bottom right of the pic could be bought potentially. Im assuming the Astro pitches are not owned by Aston Hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted January 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said: As interesting as all of this I can't think of anything else more to say until when/if the new plans come out. So there. Kerry Katona/fish GIF's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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