HanoiVillan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, bickster said: If they called for a 2nd referendum before March 29th no matter when it was organised for, then I think we can be pretty confident, an extension would be granted What would the options be, in this referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: What would the options be, in this referendum? Well sack it off completely would have to be one of the options otherwise the EU aren't going to agree to the extension on those grounds are they. As the withdrawal deal is dead, that only leaves 2 options I'd have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Well sack it off completely would have to be one of the options otherwise the EU aren't going to agree to the extension on those grounds are they. As the withdrawal deal is dead, that only leaves 2 options I'd have thought Obviously Remain is one option, but what is the other? If you're hinting at No Deal being the alternative, I don't see it; it will be decisively rejected tomorrow in the same way that May's WA has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted March 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Obviously Remain is one option, but what is the other? If you're hinting at No Deal being the alternative, I don't see it; it will be decisively rejected tomorrow in the same way that May's WA has. Yes I agree with the logic but if you follow that to its obvious conclusion, then a second referendum is pointless because parliament will do the job in the first place... except they won't, we all know they won't. I sincerely hope parliament comes to it's senses and bins the whole thing anyway, I was just saying that the EU would offer an extension for such a situation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I hope they were all pissed. Damian Greel. Ian Duncas Smith. Nicky Mokcan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I guarantee a second referendum will still be majority leave. Let's just get out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted March 12, 2019 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I guarantee a second referendum will still be majority leave. Let's just get out!! What are the terms of your guarantee? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 12, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I guarantee a second referendum will still be majority leave. Let's just get out!! Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Let's just get out!! Then what? What's your plan to replace absolutely everything we currently have agreed whilst being a member of the EU? Your plan for EU citizens in the UK? UK citizens in the EU? Northern Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 12, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, snowychap said: Quelle suprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Good ol' little Alan Cairns, he'll be her last supporter in the bunker as she takes the suicide throat lozenge. He represents a remain constituency. Edited March 12, 2019 by chrisp65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I guarantee a second referendum will still be majority leave. Let's just get out!! i think the same i think the numbers / apathy will make it interesting but i also think the new wave of lets just get it finished and move on and the democracy!!!! voters will push it towards a higher % than the 1st vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: i think the same i think the numbers / apathy will make it interesting but i also think the new wave of lets just get it finished and move on and the democracy!!!! voters will push it towards a higher % than the 1st vote I think you're right. It's why it has the potential to be an even bigger nightmare than the first one. As you've suggested, there is too much of this 'let's just get it done' stuff. No thought for what it entails, what it requires and what it may mean. It's what got us here in the first place. More of the same isn't going to help. Edited March 12, 2019 by snowychap 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 hours ago, foreveryoung said: I guarantee a second referendum will still be majority leave. Let's just get out!! This is complete common sense. Get out to where out of interest. I am sure you have carefully and thoughtfully worked this out and not just one of those bonkers white men that shout into caves leave means leave. Show working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Radio 5 this morning was just unbelievably depressing. Basically every text into the show was demanding a No Deal scenario. The one audio clip they played over and over again was a bloke with a northern accent saying 'we should stick two fingers up to the EU. We've got rabbits in the fields and we can grow potatoes in our gardens' which seems to be less nostalgia for the Second World War and more like nostalgia for a time before the Industrial Revolution. Feeling very depressed today. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 My offer of becoming a mostly benign dictator is still on the table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 A few EU linked commentators are raising the point this morning that it's far from certain that the EU is going to grant an extension to A50, especially without much clarity as to what the extension would achieve. The EU's had enough of Brexit as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: ... The one audio clip they played over and over again... Our broken and tax swerving media isn't to be trusted. Brexit that isn't out to avoid tax or exploit is going to be angry when the Emerald City doesn't materialise anyway. I need to see Brexit knowingly cut their own throats in a second referendum before giving up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 55 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Radio 5 this morning was just unbelievably depressing. Basically every text into the show was demanding a No Deal scenario. The one audio clip they played over and over again was a bloke with a northern accent saying 'we should stick two fingers up to the EU. We've got rabbits in the fields and we can grow potatoes in our gardens' which seems to be less nostalgia for the Second World War and more like nostalgia for a time before the Industrial Revolution. Feeling very depressed today. You should ignore any political output the BBC put out, it's as unbiased as Russia Today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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