Spoony Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Completely on team HKP90. Brexiteers all shat in our collective bed. Now they are suffering. And as pointed out, not one of them is willing to admit they **** us all with their blinded racism and xenophobia. No sympathy here either. **** em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 11 Moderator Share Posted February 11 3 minutes ago, HKP90 said: And this is how I am also torn internally. As I said I'm normally extremely tolerant and easy going. Look at my posts over the years, and I'm always firmly planted in the rational (I am a scientist), but man this divided my family and friends in ways I never thought possible, and it's hard to be rational on this subject. Hard for me anyway. It runs too deep and caused too much hurt. This is admittedly an extreme example and not entirely analogous but the principal of the timeline is valid. South Africa. Apartheid falls. The truth and reconciliation came later. That, it seems to me, is the natural order of things wanting it the other way around will never work. It really isn’t about being the bigger person it’s about getting what you lost back faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 22/01/2024 at 19:31, Wainy316 said: My (and the wife’s) parents getting on a bit is the absolute only reason I am raising my son in this country. Likewise. The SECOND we no longer have extended family here, I’m leaving and never ever coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted February 11 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, bickster said: This is admittedly an extreme example and not entirely analogous but the principal of the timeline is valid. South Africa. Apartheid falls. The truth and reconciliation came later. That, it seems to me, is the natural order of things wanting it the other way around will never work. It really isn’t about being the bigger person it’s about getting what you lost back faster. I'll never get back what I lost. There is a family funeral next week that I am not invited to that is testament to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 11 Moderator Share Posted February 11 37 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I'll never get back what I lost. There is a family funeral next week that I am not invited to that is testament to that. I wasn’t talking about your personal relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 11 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11 Most people who voted leave did so because they believed politicians who turned out to be liars. These same politicians turned from pro stay to leave when they realised it could get or keep them elected, or getting the top job. It was selfishness on another level from our leaders and they should be dragged over the coals for it, not the voters who believed in them, it was and still is disgraceful what happened and we're now all having to piece our country back together from the mess these liars have left us in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 25 minutes ago, tinker said: Most people who voted leave did so because they believed politicians who turned out to be liars. These same politicians turned from pro stay to leave when they realised it could get or keep them elected, or getting the top job. It was selfishness on another level from our leaders and they should be dragged over the coals for it, not the voters who believed in them, it was and still is disgraceful what happened and we're now all having to piece our country back together from the mess these liars have left us in. They made it very clear we wouldn’t lose anything, however we’d gain plenty. If you’re the trusting kind then it was a simple choice to vote leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xann Posted February 11 Popular Post Share Posted February 11 Jail or shoot the architects and salesmen of the Brexit blag and I'm golden. The fact that scum like Arron Let's Party With The Russian Ambassador Banks is cleaning up by selling health insurance, whilst the Tory filth dismantle what was our NHS, boils my piss. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 11 Moderator Share Posted February 11 29 minutes ago, Xann said: Jail or shoot the architects and salesmen of the Brexit blag and I'm golden. The fact that scum like Arron Let's Party With The Russian Ambassador Banks is cleaning up by selling health insurance, whilst the Tory filth dismantle what was our NHS, boils my piss. You won’t find me disagreeing with that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 11 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Xann said: Jail or shoot the architects and salesmen of the Brexit blag and I'm golden. The fact that scum like Arron Let's Party With The Russian Ambassador Banks is cleaning up by selling health insurance, whilst the Tory filth dismantle what was our NHS, boils my piss. They just have to be held to account, asked what happened to their promises and when are they going to be delivered, instead we have Rees Mog blaming everyone and telling anyone who will listen that we have a great deal, dear oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 12 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12 14 hours ago, bickster said: You won’t find me disagreeing with that, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 15 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15 Hard to believe that with all this freedom we have and the the AMAZING trade deals we've signed and the bonfire of regulations to help businesses that we've kept into recession. It's alright though, The European Union NEARLY went into recession too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, sidcow said: Hard to believe that with all this freedom we have and the the AMAZING trade deals we've signed and the bonfire of regulations to help businesses that we've kept into recession. It's alright though, The European Union NEARLY went into recession too. Government spokes bod well ahead of you. They were saying yesterday that its only a ‘technical recession’ and they don’t really count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 15 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Government spokes bod well ahead of you. They were saying yesterday that its only a ‘technical recession’ and they don’t really count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 14 minutes ago, sidcow said: Hard to believe that with all this freedom we have and the the AMAZING trade deals we've signed and the bonfire of regulations to help businesses that we've kept into recession. It's alright though, The European Union NEARLY went into recession too. But, but, Germany have some issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 The deeply technical explanation yesterday was this: the economy went down a little bit last month. It also went down a little bit the month before. So that’s two months of going down a little bit. But if you think about it, that’s the same as one month going up a bit, and one month going down a bit more. It’s the same, but the down bit would only be for one month and we’d still be in the same place. So it’s not really a problem. The ever sharp Nick Robinson just let that go uncommented on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 To be called a recession doesn’t it need 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth? Thats a bit more than a bad month blip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Genie said: To be called a recession doesn’t it need 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth? Thats a bit more than a bad month blip. All going well then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 15 minutes ago, ml1dch said: All going well then. And this is with a PM who is great with the economy and great with numbers… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 GDP is a shit method of rating the success of a country. Are we happier? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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