Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted February 29, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2016 I know all about his record and I don't think he is a particularly bad manager. I still stand by my original statement though, he was hired because he was French or at least he spoke French. Just because he installed an 'English only' policy after being hired means nothing. The board, in their infinite footballing wisdom, decided they were going to sign all these French players and having seen it all go tits up, thought hiring a french manager may help. It hasn't. They signed a load of s*** players and now we're stuck with them. I like Garde, but there's no way he will be here next season. I'll be surprised if he hasn't walked/been fired by the end of this one. Honestly, anyone who targets the manager needs their head checking. We have 3/4 clowns who have no idea about football running this club. They should be the target of our abuse. #OTDO74 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yep. I don't think garde is doing a great job, and there are some things he's done that I haven't agreed with. But on the whole, his team selections and lineups have agreed with what I would play, and in fact with what most people would play if you look at the pre match threads. He's also made some big positional changes that lots of us were calling for (dropping Guzan, moving Richards to RB, bringing Cissokho back to drop Richardson etc) I think the majority of those sorts of decisions he makes are the right ones. We just don't have the personnel to make it work. Do I think another manager could have gotten more out of the squad? Probably. But I couldn't tell you who that manager is. I certainly don't think Allardyce or Pulis or Pearson would have definitely gotten more. Some of Garde's poor and costly decisions: Persisting with Gestede, Ayew and Veretout as our main attacking threat for so long. Excluding Kozak then doing a u turn after finally giving him a chance. Refusing to use Traore other than as a late substitute. Excluding Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia when they could have benefited us. Using Gil mainly as a substitute until not long ago. Not trying Jerrell Sellars when we desperately needed a striker and he was scoring and deserved a chance. Our midfield and striking options are not the greatest and it was imperative that any manager we got in got the balance right. I don't think Garde did. He has made some good decisions but they took him a long time to make. More than anything it's the psychological and motivational side which lets him down. For me it's obvious Allardyce or Pulis would have done a better job and more than likely kept us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Could Sellars be our Rashford? Probably not but worth a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 On a side note, any idea if he's giving a presser pre-Everton? I'm having withdrawals from his smooth Gallic tones and forthright manner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Some of Garde's poor and costly decisions: Persisting with Gestede, Ayew and Veretout as our main attacking threat for so long. We had no other options - Gabby was injured/disinterested, Kozak not fit and did you really want Sinclair? Excluding Kozak then doing a u turn after finally giving him a chance. Fair enough to both Kozak (who proved his fitness) and for Garde to select him. Kozak didn't pull up any trees and is yet again injured. Refusing to use Traore other than as a late substitute. Has suffered numerous niggly injuries and never truly match fit, yet again he's currently injured Excluding Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia when they could have benefited us. Gabby was 'injured' and chose to seek treatment away from the club and was believed to be a negative influence in the dressing room. As for N'Zogbia, was given two chances but preferred to take out random girls from Twitter to dinner rather than put in the effort. Using Gil mainly as a substitute until not long ago. Maybe Gil isn't the best of trainers (think this was hinted at in the old regime). Perhaps Garde has made him train harder and then gave him chance. Not trying Jerrell Sellars when we desperately needed a striker and he was scoring and deserved a chance. We cannot pin our hopes on a prospect and Garde was told he'd be backed in the January window to bring in new players (the result is another matter). To be fair to Garde, he's recently selected Lyden, Davis and Green (although only Lyden has graced the pitch) from the youth set-up Our midfield and striking options are not the greatest and it was imperative that any manager we got in got the balance right. I don't think Garde did. He has made some good decisions but they took him a long time to make. More than anything it's the psychological and motivational side which lets him down. For me it's obvious Allardyce or Pulis would have done a better job and more than likely kept us up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I really hope he isn't here for next season. He is dreadful and was another terrible appointment by this regime. Problem is I don't have any faith at all in the board to ever make a decent appointment. We are ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: Some of Garde's poor and costly decisions: 1) Persisting with Gestede, Ayew and Veretout as our main attacking threat for so long. 2) Excluding Kozak then doing a u turn after finally giving him a chance. 3) Refusing to use Traore other than as a late substitute. 4) Excluding Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia when they could have benefited us. 5) Using Gil mainly as a substitute until not long ago. 1) Ayew is our best player. Veretout has been our best midfielder. Gestede is crap but we don't exactly have many other options. He brought in Kozak as a last resort. he's also used Gabby, Gil, Sinclair, N'Zogbia at various times. Basically he's used all his options, he persists with the best 3, even though they're the best of a bad bunch. 2) See above. That's a odd way to put it. you could say he gave Kozak a chance when everyone else had excluded him. Regardless, Kozak hardly pulled up trees. He did well in one game, garde carried on playing him and then he's been injured. 3) He's given Traore plenty of minutes, with limited success. But this would be your most valid point. I woudl have liked to have seen Adama more, but can understand why he wasn't used as much as we'd like. 4) Horrendously awful argument. N'Zogbia is the worst player in the squad. Gabby has been injured. Now he's fit he's been put into the team (ahead of Gestede, contradicting your first point), and has proved that he's quite shit too. 5) Gil has started 12 of Garde's 16 league games. Including his first 3. So this point is nonsense. Edited February 29, 2016 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Kozak is injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: For me it's obvious Allardyce or Pulis would have done a better job and more than likely kept us up. Neither of whom were available when we sacked Sherwood so are you suggesting we should have yet again paid millions of pounds in compensation to either the Baggies or Sunderland ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: Some of Garde's poor and costly decisions: Persisting with Gestede, Ayew and Veretout as our main attacking threat for so long. Excluding Kozak then doing a u turn after finally giving him a chance. Refusing to use Traore other than as a late substitute. Excluding Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia when they could have benefited us. Using Gil mainly as a substitute until not long ago. Not trying Jerrell Sellars when we desperately needed a striker and he was scoring and deserved a chance. Our midfield and striking options are not the greatest and it was imperative that any manager we got in got the balance right. I don't think Garde did. He has made some good decisions but they took him a long time to make. More than anything it's the psychological and motivational side which lets him down. For me it's obvious Allardyce or Pulis would have done a better job and more than likely kept us up. Mike, I love your posts, it's posts like these that keep putting wind in this eternally recycled thread. Please keep them coming. Incidentally I disagree with every word. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) On 2/28/2016 at 12:00, HanoiVillan said: I'm not saying it should be 'pushed aside'. Getting the most out of Benteke is basically the only thing I give Sherwood credit for. Nevertheless, it can't be ignored that he's a much, much, much better player than any striker currently at the club. When Sherwood didn't have Benteke, we couldn't score and we were shite. he seemed to get a glimmer out of Grealish too. ps was that him or just coincidence, my opinions have been drained. Edited February 29, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, TRO said: he seemed to get a glimmer out of Grealish too. Definitely, and the match at Leicester this season where Grealish and Gil both scored showed what might have been if they'd been given a run together. But no, he made his subs, and when we lost, rather than admitting it might have been something to do with his substitutions he decided to rip the side apart week after week. I still wonder to this day just how our season would have turned out if he'd brought a midfielder on. Sherwood was probably always an accident waiting to happen though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If he walks due to being unhappy with the board and Middlesbrough fail to reach promotion, how would you guys feel about Aitor Karanka? Did well last season and also this season. Would have us contesting for promotion (well hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Definitely, and the match at Leicester this season where Grealish and Gil both scored showed what might have been if they'd been given a run together. But no, he made his subs, and when we lost, rather than admitting it might have been something to do with his substitutions he decided to rip the side apart week after week. I still wonder to this day just how our season would have turned out if he'd brought a midfielder on. Sherwood was probably always an accident waiting to happen though. I can't argue.....but there is so much at B6 i could say that about.....its a mess. I am finding it difficult to appraise anything about us right now, because there is so much wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, ismail-villa said: If he walks due to being unhappy with the board and Middlesbrough fail to reach promotion, how would you guys feel about Aitor Karanka? Did well last season and also this season. Would have us contesting for promotion (well hopefully). We could have Mourinho or Guardiola and they couldn't do a thing under the current regime and the current playing staff. I like Karanka, he's certainly cut his teeth well in the Championship - but no doubt, he'd be sold a pup by Tom Fox and told he'd be backed before being financially hamstrung and left out in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: They signed a load of s*** players and now we're stuck with them Signed, Sealed and delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Walks because he's unhappy with the board? He'd be out the door here then in about 45 nanoseconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Remi Garde is reported to be having sleepless nights. He's probably the only one in the sorry lot that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Be funny if he walks out the door on 74!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hope he will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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