backenricker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It has to be Moyes job to turn down surely?On paper, there cannot be any better candidate and if the board aren't doing everything they can to get Moyes this opportunity will be lost.Moyes is proven in the PL. He could be a long-term appointment and his dealings in the transfer market at Everton were excellent - Lescott, Tim Cahill, Jagielka and many others all signed from Championship. Seamus Coleman, Tim Howard, Steven Pienaar, Arteta, Fellani recruited from overseas - some as relatively unknown players... He operated - very successfully at Everton, under similar financial limitations he'd face at Villa.And for Moyes - he's unlikely to get another top 4 gig any time soon... The tier below the top 5 clubs - e.g. Spurs, Villa, Everton - that's his level.Might he even get another chance at clubs like that?... On paper, it screams Moyes. I cannot believe the calibre of some of the names being linked - Garde?? Pearson???? It should be a shortlist of managers who have previous in the PL - Moyes, Rodgers or Redknapp. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted October 27, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm going to work back through this thread, through every post and ban ever single person who mentions that shifty spiv who likes leaning out of car windows in a thread about our next manager!!! :) 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It has to be Moyes job to turn down surely?On paper, there cannot be any better candidate and if the board aren't doing everything they can to get Moyes this opportunity will be lost.Moyes is proven in the PL. He could be a long-term appointment and his dealings in the transfer market at Everton were excellent - Lescott, Tim Cahill, Jagielka and many others all signed from Championship. Seamus Coleman, Tim Howard, Steven Pienaar, Arteta, Fellani recruited from overseas - some as relatively unknown players... He operated - very successfully at Everton, under similar financial limitations he'd face at Villa.And for Moyes - he's unlikely to get another top 4 gig any time soon... The tier below the top 5 clubs - e.g. Spurs, Villa, Everton - that's his level.Might he even get another chance at clubs like that?... On paper, it screams Moyes. I cannot believe the calibre of some of the names being linked - Garde?? Pearson???? It should be a shortlist of managers who have previous in the PL - Moyes, Rodgers or Redknapp. End of. Moyes has a job and doesn't want the Villa job so that's a no go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Any word on my man Jocelyn Gourvennec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eames Posted October 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) STOP TALKING ABOUT "PREMIER LEAGUE EXPERIENCE" ITS A TOTAL IRRELEVANCE. What have Wenger, Mourinho, Pellegrini, Ancelotti, Bilic, Howe, Benitez and more all got in common? They've all come into this league and worked wonders WITHOUT ANY PREMIER LEAGUE EXPERIENCE. Sherwood had it, McLeish had it, McCarthy had it, he who Trent says must not be named had it.Its total Bollocks. Cheap platitudes spouted by idiots and journalists. It has to be Moyes job to turn down surely?On paper, there cannot be any better candidate and if the board aren't doing everything they can to get Moyes this opportunity will be lost.Moyes is proven in the PL. He could be a long-term appointment and his dealings in the transfer market at Everton were excellent - Lescott, Tim Cahill, Jagielka and many others all signed from Championship. Seamus Coleman, Tim Howard, Steven Pienaar, Arteta, Fellani recruited from overseas - some as relatively unknown players... He operated - very successfully at Everton, under similar financial limitations he'd face at Villa.And for Moyes - he's unlikely to get another top 4 gig any time soon... The tier below the top 5 clubs - e.g. Spurs, Villa, Everton - that's his level.Might he even get another chance at clubs like that?... On paper, it screams Moyes. I cannot believe the calibre of some of the names being linked - Garde?? Pearson???? It should be a shortlist of managers who have previous in the PL - Moyes, Rodgers or Redknapp. End of. On this basis alone I hope you are first to be KTFO'd with Trents banhammer of justice. Edited October 27, 2015 by Eames 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Is Dave Bassett available? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney_avfc Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Is Dave Bassett available?How about Mike Bassett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2015 well he hasnt done very well has hw? Bottom of the league with players he had a influence with along with reilly.Stan also said these owners should be having more people who were involved in the game at the club. Ita true its all business men who never played the game what do they understand about football? Sound reasoning. So Almstadt - on account of him not being a 'football man' - cops more blame for us being bottom than the man who actually took charge of the matches and picked the team. Basically he doesn't fit into Collymore's antiqued view of how a club should be run so he's doing a bad job even if we have no idea what in particular he has done right/wrong.Back in the 90s I did an MSc in 'Managing Information Technology' (stay with me, it's relevant). The raison d'etre of the course was that too many business managers didn't understand IT, and too many IT guys didn't understand business. So they took people from both disciplines and tried to turn them into 'hybrid managers' (whether it worked or not is for another debate). Maybe football needs to take a similar approach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'd say sacking 2 managers in 6 months shows a pretty high level of bumbling around.2 managers in 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not that it matters (I hope!), but Justin Edinburgh is now second favourite for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not that it matters (I hope!), but Justin Edinburgh is now second favourite for the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2015 Fat Ron says we should go for Pearson. Rio Ferdinand says Yorke is credible because he's "loved by Villa fans". Planet Gaga. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just wikipedia'd Justin Edinburgh and I still do not understand who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Fat Ron says we should go for Pearson. Rio Ferdinand says Yorke is credible because he's "loved by Villa fans". Planet Gaga.Sums up punditry really. The whole Sherwood media manipulation over the past few weeks shows that you can't take one word any of those ex-players say because they're always driving an agenda for their buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just wikipedia'd Justin Edinburgh and I still do not understand who he is.lol i done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Fat Ron says we should go for Pearson. Rio Ferdinand says Yorke is credible because he's "loved by Villa fans". Planet Gaga.Fat Ron says we should go for Pearson. Rio Ferdinand says Yorke is credible because he's "loved by Villa fans". Planet Gaga.Pearson whilst crazy did a good job at Leicester last yr when they were near bottom. I'd say the fact they are still doing well this yr comes from some of the fighting spirit that he installed.Yorke on the other hand, I've never seen anything to suggest he'd be a good manager. At the most he could be a striking coach, but I think he'd still have a negative impact on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not that it matters (I hope!), but Justin Edinburgh is now second favourite for the job.He was 2nd favourite to plenty on the pitch too when he was at Spurs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Was just checking there and Moyes has come in a bit in the betting this morning. Then i got thinking that he actually hasnt ruled himself out. Would that not be the first thing a manager at another team would do if they werent interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 So here's a thought, whilst we all muse on who it will be next, whether Garde, or someone else...Appy Arry was in the Metro the other day saying a manager only makes at most 10% difference to the fortunes of a club and the rest is down to the quality of the players. I think he could well be right, but if he is that makes his role even more vital if the margins of influence are so small.It also provides the likes of Sherwood and other sh*te managers with a handy get out because they can always say they weren't his players and the ones he got just weren't good enough. Fact is, we are where we are (up the creek) and we need someone with intelligence to make the best of our squad and give it a shot - a workman who likes working and won't blame his tools.The more I think about it, Remy fits this criteria. Sure it may not work, but even if we go down, I think he could help us build something interesting. I'm all for it. That's because Harry Redknapp is an absolute word removedHe's not my favourite bloke either but what do you think of the percentage influence a manager can have?I think it's a hell of a lot more than 10%.If all that matters is the quality of the player, then the manager has a huge influence in that as he signs them (or has a big part in signing them)As usual, I think Redknapp is talking out of his arse.And if the players are by committee how small does that percentage get? and what are clubs even bothering paying for? Perhaps 'arry only gave 10% and that is what he is basing it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just wikipedia'd Justin Edinburgh and I still do not understand who he is.lol i done the same.Well I remember him as a Premier League sticker for Spurs but apparently he's the current Gillingham manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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