StefanAVFC Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Weak and Wobbly Theresa Maybe strikes again How can anybody support this bunch of jokers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Weak and Wobbly Theresa Maybe strikes again How can anybody support this bunch of jokers? Pretty much the same reason the GOP are supporting Trump. Prolonging their life on the greasy pole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Garnier given more time to play with his toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Jo Johnson made Minister of State for Transport (and London). Toby Young soon to be revealed as gov's Uber Tsar. Edited January 9, 2018 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, bickster said: GOP It's neither Grand, old or a party. Super odd. New names on a post card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Seems like the Tories plan is coming to fruition. They have been setting the NHS to fail since they came into power in 2010 and now it well and truly is. What a shameful state of affairs this is. Imagine being one of these patients dying in a corridor in A and E or one of the relatives watching someone you love die prematurely as they can't get the treatment they need. This is all so wrong but is just the tip of the iceberg and the most visible sign of the NHS failing. If voters don't remember anything else the next time they go in the voting booth they need to remember what these bastards have done to the NHS. Quote ITV REPORT 11 January 2018 at 1:15pm NHS: Patients 'dying prematurely' in corridors, A&E bosses warn May Patients are "dying prematurely" in the corridors of A&E units, the heads of more than 60 emergency departments have warned Theresa May. The "current level of safety compromise is at times intolerable, despite the best efforts of staff," a letter signed by consultants in charge of emergency departments in 68 acute hospitals across England and Wales said. Acknowledging the best efforts of staff, trusts and clinical commissioning groups, it adds: "The facts remain, however, that the NHS is severely and chronically underfunded. "Thousands of patients are waiting in ambulances for hours as the hospitals lack adequate space. "Some of our own personal experiences range from over 120 patients a day managed in corridors, some dying prematurely........ NHS Patients Dying Prematurely Edited January 11, 2018 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 May promises to reduce avoidable plastic waste polution within 25 years. Woah, steady on there you crazy green zealot. Surely we can't get rid of plastic we don't actually need in just a quarter of a century. She is truly the anti midas, everything she touches turns to slightly less than mediocre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 11, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: May promises to reduce avoidable plastic waste polution within 25 years. Woah, steady on there you crazy green zealot. Surely we can't get rid of plastic we don't actually need in just a quarter of a century. She is truly the anti midas, everything she touches turns to slightly less than mediocre. any politician promising to do something by 25 years time is a liar any politician with the shelf life of about a year promising to do something in 25 years time is a complete idiot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 They're just rubbish at everything, this lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (If you don't know, it's about Mr T Young's documented extracurricular activities). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 "Secret Eugenics Conference" unless they can start thinking of sneaky ways to kill off all the people they hate then this is a non starter. It's not as if they can burn the poor in tower blocks, provide fast 4 hour emergency ambulance call outs to the now dead or get the sick and ill into A&E only to let them die anyway in a corridor. They would never get away with any of that. Too obvious even for the Tories so a non-starter for me there peterms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 14 hours ago, peterms said: (If you don't know, it's about Mr T Young's documented extracurricular activities). activity surely .. seeing as he only went to one meeting there is an alternative view here for those that like to see both sides of an argument ..oh wait Yes, I went to the 2017 London Conference on Intelligence – I popped in for a few hours on a Saturday and sat at the back. I did not present a paper or give a lecture or appear on a platform or anything remotely like that. I had not met any of the other people in the lecture room before, save for Dr Thompson, and was unfamiliar with their work. I was completely ignorant of what had been discussed at the same event in previous years. All I knew was that some of them occupied the weird and whacky outer fringe of the world of genetics. My reason for attending was because I had been asked – as a journalist – to give a lecture by the International Society of Intelligence Researchers at the University of Montreal later in the year and I was planning to talk about the history of controversies provoked by intelligence researchers. I thought the UCL conference would provide me with some anecdotal material for the lecture – and it did. To repeat, I was there as a journalist researching a talk I had to give a few months later and which was subsequently published. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: activity surely .. seeing as he only went to one meeting there is an alternative view here for those that like to see both sides of an argument ..oh wait Personally I wouldn’t trust anything the little turd says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, meregreen said: Personally I wouldn’t trust anything the little turd says. In fairness given the bile he spouted on Twitter the fact he may be able to defend this latest accusation won't change the fact he is clearly a total bell end. Hopefully it will be the end of him being given tv airtime to spout his claptrap. Edited January 12, 2018 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: activity surely .. seeing as he only went to one meeting there is an alternative view here for those that like to see both sides of an argument ..oh wait For those who cannot access articles behind the Spectator paywall, Young's defence of himself is also available on facebook: Quote Once more unto the breach I naively thought... After reading Mr Young's 'alternative view', I'd suggest reading the article from Quadrant mentioned therein, the Constance Holden Memorial Address (avoid the Amanda Holden one ) also mentioned therein, the article he wrote for Quilette published christmas day last, and look at the way the discussion of the ideas that he has sought to air have been framed by his employer (i.e. The Spectator). Excerpts from articles linked above: Quote Quadrant: Progressive eugenics But that isn’t the solution I want to explore here. I’m more interested in the potential of a technology that hasn’t been invented yet: genetically engineered intelligence. .. Quote Constance Holden Memorial Address: It’s an honour to be giving the 2017 Constance Holden Memorial Address and I want to thank Tim Bates and the Board of ISIR for inviting me here, as well as Sherif Karama for being such a gracious host. .. Quote Quilette: As you would expect, the most controversial proposals are those that involve reviving eugenics in some form – although that word is so toxic these proposals often aren’t described that way by their exponents. I haven't finished the middle one yet mainly because I got as far as his ninth para when the phrase 'social justive warriors' popped up and decided that the radio was a more pleasant accompaniment to my morning poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 As I think snowy is suggesting there, the defence that he was just there as a journalist is undermined by his long-held belief in eugenics. Whether he was there as a journalist or a believer in this instance, he is a believer (or has repeatedly flirted with it). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 hours ago, tonyh29 said: activity surely .. seeing as he only went to one meeting there is an alternative view here for those that like to see both sides of an argument ..oh wait How sweet of you to defend him. It's more than his fellow tory MPs Woollaston and Halfon are prepared to do. Perhaps they just don't get his "caustic wit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, peterms said: How sweet of you to defend him. It's more than his fellow tory MPs Woollaston and Halfon are prepared to do. Perhaps they just don't get his "caustic wit". yeah cause I wrote page and pages defending him just thought Twitter had let you down again and you might have wanted to know it wasn't the only view out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: yeah cause I wrote page and pages defending him just thought Twitter had let you down again and you might have wanted to know it wasn't the only view out there I don't think twitter let me down. It was quite useful in illustrating some of Mr Young's views. I think he rather wishes it hadn't, or rather that he hadn't been so foolish as to reveal his thoughts in that way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 12, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2018 9 hours ago, tonyh29 said: My reason for attending was because I had been asked – as a journalist – to give a lecture by the International Society of Intelligence Researchers at the University of Montreal later in the year and I was planning to talk about the history of controversies provoked by intelligence researchers. I thought the UCL conference would provide me with some anecdotal material for the lecture – and it did. To repeat, I was there as a journalist researching a talk I had to give a few months later and which was subsequently published. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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