Genie Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: lolz Did Sunak do or say something? I never noticed but the polls suggest he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: lolz As an avid follower of polls, People Polling should be avoided like the plague. It's Matt Goodwin's vehicle to push whatever story he wants pushing. Really not worth the paper it's printed on. Also - the big change, note that it's comparing with "data" from six months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 28, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: As an avid follower of polls, People Polling should be avoided like the plague. It's Matt Goodwin's vehicle to push whatever story he wants pushing. Really not worth the paper it's printed on. Also - the big change, note that it's comparing with "data" from six months ago. Beat me to it but just add into the mix that it’s a poll for GBNews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, ml1dch said: As an avid follower of polls, People Polling should be avoided like the plague. It's Matt Goodwin's vehicle to push whatever story he wants pushing. Really not worth the paper it's printed on. Also - the big change, note that it's comparing with "data" from six months ago. Yeah but even so, lolz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Could be a fun week for the covid enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/30/tory-ministerial-aide-sacked-over-call-for-gaza-ceasefire "A Conservative MP has been sacked from his government job after breaking ranks to publicly urge Rishi Sunak to back a permanent ceasefire in Gaza. Paul Bristow was dismissed as a ministerial aide at the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology on Monday after writing to the prime minister to call for an end to hostilities between Israel and Hamas to save lives." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 hours ago, DCJonah said: Could be a fun week for the covid enquiry. Should help the bring back Boris brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Get covid live longer. An actual phrase used in his message when he also said he didn't buy all this NHS being overwhelmed stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Get covid live longer. An actual phrase used in his message when he also said he didn't buy all this NHS being overwhelmed stuff. "Why damage the economy just for people who are going to die anyway?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I must admit, hearing the terms Cummings used to describe ministers in the middle of the day, uncensored, is pretty shocking. "f**kpigs" "words removed" It really speaks to the kind of characters Johnson surrounded himself with that someone would use that language...even if he's probably not factually incorrect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, desensitized43 said: I must admit, hearing the terms Cummings used to describe ministers in the middle of the day, uncensored, is pretty shocking. "f**kpigs" "words removed" It really speaks to the kind of characters Johnson surrounded himself with that someone would use that language...even if he's probably not factually incorrect. Yes, I had no doubts whatsoever that Boris in charge would be an absolute shit show but I had no idea just how bad and how quickly it would sink to these depths. You put a word removed on charge, he will surround himself with words removed and word removed ish things will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: "Why damage the economy just for people who are going to die anyway?" This makes it even stranger that he chose to massively damage the economy AND let loads of people die. best of both worlds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: This makes it even stranger that he chose to massively damage the economy AND let loads of people die. best of both worlds The line appears to be that the entire situation was so chaotic that a choice wasn't really made to go one way or another, instead things were fudged and lost in the chaos of it all which lead to decisions being made too late or wrongly, and then reactions having to be made which in turn exacerbated the chaos by the whole system lurching to focus on the new reactive action rather deal with the fundamental problems in structure, leadership, decision making, and implementation. Which left it's with the worst of all worlds - greatly increased masses of deaths and economic hammering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: This makes it even stranger that he chose to massively damage the economy AND let loads of people die. best of both worlds And we ended restrictions earlier than our European neighbours yet they all seemed to recover quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I better out live Boris because i want to celebrate the day he dies 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 Hancock is getting eviscerated in this enquiry. It seems all of the government, outside of number 10, was running around telling anyone who would listen that he was a liar and completely out of his depth and getting thousands of people killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Chindie said: The line appears to be that the entire situation was so chaotic that a choice wasn't really made to go one way or another, instead things were fudged and lost in the chaos of it all which lead to decisions being made too late or wrongly, and then reactions having to be made which in turn exacerbated the chaos by the whole system lurching to focus on the new reactive action rather deal with the fundamental problems in structure, leadership, decision making, and implementation. Which left it's with the worst of all worlds - greatly increased masses of deaths and economic hammering. Yep, I think that much was clear to most people as the situation evolved. We had more information than a lot of countries did, and we did nothing with it. Basically, we **** it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Chindie said: The line appears to be that the entire situation was so chaotic that a choice wasn't really made to go one way or another, instead things were fudged and lost in the chaos of it all which lead to decisions being made too late or wrongly, and then reactions having to be made which in turn exacerbated the chaos by the whole system lurching to focus on the new reactive action rather deal with the fundamental problems in structure, leadership, decision making, and implementation. Which left it's with the worst of all worlds - greatly increased masses of deaths and economic hammering. That's just a long winded way of saying 'incompetence', which we all knew anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Johnson and Hancock should be on trial. The facts will show they ignored expert advice and got many people killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 17 hours ago, mjmooney said: "Why damage the economy just for people who are going to die anyway?" CONS 36% (+8) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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