ml1dch Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 19:09, mjmooney said: This is all absolutely wonderful. For as long as I can remember, it was the Labour Party that was stereotyped as wacky swivel-eyed loons, full of political extremists, but unelectable due to their incessant internal divisions and feuds. The Tories were supposedly the party of stability and sober good management. We seem to have passed Through The Looking Glass. Fight, fight, fight... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2023 Quote The Conservatives are facing the prospect of three by-elections after being told that MPs nominated for a peerage will have to stand down before the next general election. Scotland secretary Alister Jack, former culture secretary Nadine Dorries, former Cabinet minister Nigel Adams and president for COP26 Alok Sharma were all nominated by Boris Johnson for seats in the House of Lords in his resignation honours list. It is understood that they planned to continue as MPs, before standing down and joining the Lords at the next election. However, the House of Lords Appointments Commission, which vets peerages, has advised the Cabinet Office that this would be “constitutionally improper”, The Times reported, meaning those MPs who wanted to take up their seat in the Lords would have to stand down as an MP. Ms Dorries, Mr Adams and Mr Sharma are said to be prepared to do so, the paper reported, though a source close to Mr Sharma called it a “totally hypothetical question”. Torygraph Alok Sharma's Reading West constituency could prove an interesting by-election. The other two are nailed on safe Tory seats Alister Jack is thought to not want to resign his seat which is a shame, even though it would most likely result in an SNP victory, it may have shown current Scottish voting intentions a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, bickster said: Torygraph Alok Sharma's Reading West constituency could prove an interesting by-election. The other two are nailed on safe Tory seats Alister Jack is thought to not want to resign his seat which is a shame, even though it would most likely result in an SNP victory, it may have shown current Scottish voting intentions a bit Honestly the way this imploding shit show is unfolding, I’m not sure there is a “nailed on Tory constituency” any more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2023 Ah the Nat-C Conference has well known His... racist David Starkey telling the conference "White Culture" is under threat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, meregreen said: Honestly the way this imploding shit show is unfolding, I’m not sure there is a “nailed on Tory constituency” any more. I'm sure Sutton Coldfield will forever be blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: I'm sure Sutton Coldfield will forever be blue I live there. I’m a Labour Party member, so it can tough. There are good people live here though. I live in hope common decency can prevail over political partisanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Baroness Dorries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xann Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Xann said: Took me a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, meregreen said: I live there. I’m a Labour Party member, so it can tough. There are good people live here though. I live in hope common decency can prevail over political partisanship. It’s shocking conservatives still get in there especially as their candidate is the abhorrent Andrew Mitchell. an utterly vile, self serving and arrogant individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Xann said: Suella - The Spider of Hate. Spindly, fascist shitbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, theboyangel said: It’s shocking conservatives still get in there especially as their candidate is the abhorrent Andrew Mitchell. an utterly vile, self serving and arrogant individual I saw him at Sutton station very early one morning, skulking along the platform looking decidedly uncomfortable with the riffraff so close to him. I can't say I think a lot of the man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Xann said: Please tell me it's photoshopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: Please tell me it's photoshopped It's Bod the urban artist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 18, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 18, 2023 Newspaper Editorial... Quote Deluded Tories are blind to the scale of the disaster to come It is time for the Conservative Party to get real: it is on course for a landslide defeat of historic proportions, brought about by its own cowardice and incompetence. There is too much delusion in Toryland, too much residual hope that Rishi Sunak will pull off a miracle, too little honest appraisal of public opinion. Poll after poll paints the same picture: yes, the Prime Minister is relatively well liked, but his party isn’t. The current 17-point gap may narrow: Sir Keir Starmer may overreach, frightening some electors. But barring a major black swan event, it is overwhelmingly likely that Starmer will be PM next year, quite possibly without even needing the support of other Left-wing parties. There will be tactical voting, and he may win the most votes even in England, as Tony Blair did in 1997 and 2001. He will wield immense power. Why am I so pessimistic? The Tories have failed in almost every way, and repeatedly betrayed their electorate, in wanton, even occasionally gleeful, fashion. They don’t seem to believe in conservatism any longer, and all of their old-anti-Labour arguments now lack credibility. Even their most ardent supporters cannot list more than a tiny number of successes, or point to any reason other than “Labour will be even worse” for continuing to back them. Under such circumstances, why wouldn’t floating voters opt to give the other lot a chance? Which left wing rag wrote this? Spoiler Telegraph and written by Allister Heath, Editor of the Sunday Telegraph. He does go on to argue they should go further to the right but that opening set of paragraphs is quite the announcement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Xann said: It's Bod the urban artist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 19, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2023 You lost to Liz Truss in a leadership contest, did that hurt more or less than when you lost 1,000 seats in your first big election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted May 19, 2023 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2023 This message discipline thing. It’s mental. He repeated the exact same non answer 3 times, listing 5 things. People (well me) just think what a clearing in the woods! Speak human. Say “it hurts when I lose, but it’s an inevitable part of life that things won’t always go the way you want and it’s what you do after you suffer a setback that matters…” or something. At least engage with the interviewer in an interview you’ve agreed to do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 It would have been nice if after he repeated the same thing twice she drew on the fact waiting lists are getting longer due to strikes, inflation isn’t coming down, the boats are coming more than ever, the economy is miles behind many others and just about avoiding recession and we’re paying £20b a month on debt interest alone. Rather than amusing (but pointless) questions about whether losing 1000 seats hurts more than losing a leadership context last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 19, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Genie said: It would have been nice if after he repeated the same thing twice she drew on the fact waiting lists are getting longer due to strikes, inflation isn’t coming down, the boats are coming more than ever, the economy is miles behind many others and just about avoiding recession and we’re paying £20b a month on debt interest alone. Rather than amusing (but pointless) questions about whether losing 1000 seats hurts more than losing a leadership context last year. Beth RIgby is all about Beth Rigby and little else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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