Genie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Looks like the chancellor is off Spoiler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 She never had the majority of support from her own MP's. She then appointed only her friends and lackies to the top jobs and came up with a classic example of failed groupthink in the mini budget. Anyone that stupid deserves to get sacked off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) Amusing music spoof. Edited October 13, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) I think the deceit behind the budget makes it worse. It was never going to be funded by entirely by debt (which would be bad enough) , its was a backdoor to cut to public services. Nobody voted for that. Edited October 13, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 This is great, because this is an IEA guy and one of Truss’s biggest cheerleaders. If she loses the support of these guys then what does she have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 So is she going to end up doing what Rishi said he’d do? Raise taxes, reduce debt, get inflation under control and lower taxes later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: later She isn't Jools Holland, there will be no later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, KentVillan said: This is great, because this is an IEA guy and one of Truss’s biggest cheerleaders. If she loses the support of these guys then what does she have left? Seems to be a consensus building that the u-turn is coming: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 56 minutes ago, choffer said: Seems to be a consensus building that the u-turn is coming: They don't really have a choice. The markets have (relatively) stabilised on the expectation of a u-turn. If that u-turn doesn't come there will be absolute meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 They spent 2 weeks saying they had this amazing plan when they had nothing. Absolutely unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 The lowest they've ever dropped was 17%, in the May years. But at the same time there was Farage Corp, Inc on 26% for them to swallow back up. Reform, the current equivalent are on 3%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Genie said: They spent 2 weeks saying they had this amazing plan when they had nothing. Absolutely unbelievable They had something it just wasn't fit for purpose. Funny how we are being told to ignore the experts on the financial melt down, by the same cretins that dismissed Brexit concerns...... from other experts. Edited October 13, 2022 by tinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Genie said: They spent 2 weeks saying they had this amazing plan when they had nothing. Absolutely unbelievable I think they did have a plan, that might have “worked” (ie boosted GDP growth, whether or not you agree with the redistributive / social consequences) in different circumstances, but it was a crazy time to try it, and a really poor execution, especially without any popular mandate. I also think these IEA types are too influenced by the US, which has the enormous advantage of holding the world reserve currency, and so has much more leeway to do stuff like this without getting annihilated by the markets. The UK is too small to copy the US, and too big to copy Singapore. Pragmatists get this and ideologues don’t. A positive consequence may be that it rolls the ground for Starmer to rethink Brexit, as more and more people will be desperate for anything that helps get the economy under control. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, tinker said: They had something it just wasn't fit for purpose. Funny how we are being told to ignore the experts on the financial melt down, by the same cretins that dismissed Brexit concerns...... from other experts. What was it going to be? I can only assume the plan was 1) Borrow a load of money so they could 2) slash taxes which 3) cause a massive boom to the economy which 4) pays off the huge loans. Terrible idea especially considering inflation is already raging and this would make it worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, ml1dch said: The lowest they've ever dropped was 17%, in the May years. But at the same time there was Farage Corp, Inc on 26% for them to swallow back up. Reform, the current equivalent are on 3%. Surely that was European election voting intention though? I’ve haven’t seen the Tories below 30s for Westminster voting intention in yonks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Surely that was European election voting intention though? I’ve haven’t seen the Tories below 30s for Westminster voting intention in yonks. Indeed - my point was less "look how low it is" and more "where on earth do they claw it back from?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Would love to see the Lib Dems overtake them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cyrusr Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Jareth said: Would love to see the Lib Dems overtake them At this rate the greens will overtake them, although I think I’m more surprised that 9% of people have a favourable view of her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2022 7 hours ago, cyrusr said: At this rate the greens will overtake them, although I think I’m more surprised that 9% of people have a favourable view of her. I though that. How on earth can nearly 1 in 10 people possibly think she's great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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