bickster Posted July 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: No one talking about Tom Tugendhat. I don't know much about him other than he was a remainer and his Afghanistan speech in Parliament. I'm inclined to be keener on anyone who has a softer stance on Europe. He's got absolutely no chance. He's got dual French citizenship (His wife is French) and is a former EU Vice-President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, juanpabloangel18 said: I can't believe anyone still thinks low tax small state is a viable program for a functioning country in the 21st century Depends who you want it to function for. It certainly won't function that well for anyone in poor health with no PMI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Of the moderates - I think Penny Mordant has the best chance. A bit worrying that whilst I don't think any of the extreme right wing loonies will win this time around - they might do in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Having called in the navy to police the channel, in order to sound tough - Priti Patel has only gone and made the whole thing safer and more attractive for small boats because the navy are good at what they do and have an incentive to save lives rather than shoot at refugees. What a fookin clown show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, hippo said: Of the moderates - I think Penny Mordant has the best chance. A bit worrying that whilst I don't think any of the extreme right wing loonies will win this time around - they might do in the next few years. How are you judging her as a moderate? Genuine question as the only real policy issue I know about her is, Brexiteer. There’s talk of her being pro-Trans but that’s just based on her annoying the hell out of mumsnet readers by not answering questions on the subject. If she gets close enough to Truss, expect Truss to use that against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, bickster said: There’s talk of her being pro-Trans but that’s just based on her annoying the hell out of mumsnet readers by not answering questions on the subject. Hahahah. Bicks reads Mumsnet. I'm off to see if I can find posts on there by someone called Bickerina. Edited July 9, 2022 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted July 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2022 Lol. What a sad state of affairs that this "joke" was actually almost believable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Let's hope that's kept safely until 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: How are you judging her as a moderate? Genuine question as the only real policy issue I know about her is, Brexiteer. There’s talk of her being pro-Trans but that’s just based on her annoying the hell out of mumsnet readers by not answering questions on the subject. If she gets close enough to Truss, expect Truss to use that against her. Well I'm judging her as moderate v some on the other more extreme candidates Braveman, badenoch. As always moderate / right / left is subjective . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, hippo said: Well I'm judging her as moderate v some on the other more extreme candidates Braveman, badenoch. As always moderate / right / left is subjective . That’s not really an answer. I was thinking more what has she said or done to make you think she’s a moderate? See I tried to do a bit of reading around her and couldn’t find her opinions on anything but Brexit and that people who vandalise war memorials should be put in a boot camp run by the armed forces. Apart from that I found absolutely nothing of any substance. I also find that a little strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 The audio is pretty gross. You have to wonder why this is only coming to light now that Boris Weinstein is leaving in disgrace, rather than at any other point in the last ten years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 How many women, who he was either shagging or trying to shag did he try to get jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted July 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2022 My takeaway from that, apart from how the right wing media have been happy to sit on his scandals for years, is how differently he speaks in private. This is the real Alexander De Pfeffel Johnson. The ruffled hair, "blitz spirit and some shite in latin" Boris mask is off there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: That’s not really an answer. I was thinking more what has she said or done to make you think she’s a moderate? See I tried to do a bit of reading around her and couldn’t find her opinions on anything but Brexit and that people who vandalise war memorials should be put in a boot camp run by the armed forces. Apart from that I found absolutely nothing of any substance. I also find that a little strange If you lined the current candidates up left to right - you'd have Hunt on the left - badenoch on the right. Penny somewhere in the middle imo. Of course people shift around when actually in power so it's not a precise science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ml1dch said: The audio is pretty gross. You have to wonder why this is only coming to light now that Boris Weinstein is leaving in disgrace, rather than at any other point in the last ten years or so. Her own motivations at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: My takeaway from that, apart from how the right wing media have been happy to sit on his scandals for years, is how differently he speaks in private. This is the real Alexander De Pfeffel Johnson. The ruffled hair, "blitz spirit and some shite in latin" Boris mask is off there. It's the most coherent I've ever heard him sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 The impression I get from that video is she was trying to blackmail him into getting her a job. Though there’s not a lot to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 12 hours ago, hippo said: Depends who you want it to function for. It certainly won't function that well for anyone in poor health with no PMI. Yep, or anyone who: - cares about fighting climate change - uses infrastructure of any kind - wants the Police to investigate crimes; fire service to operate; ambulances to turn up - thinks education or housing is a right - wants protection from tech billionaires - is concerned about infotech and biotech revolutions eliminating entire swathes of the job market Etc etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 10, 2022 See, if they choose Sunak, this sort of thing will keep on happening, time after time, day after day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Let's not forget the only reason Sunak got to roleplay as chancellor for a couple of years is that he was a weak and pliable backbencher willing to let Cummings and Johnson fill his team with their preferred candidates while Javid wouldn't tolerate it. I don't see what he has going for him at all, he's complicit in the law breaking, he's an out of touch billionaire who comes across incredibly poorly when interviewed. He was a fairly unpopular chancellor as soon as his "give away loads of money" remit was over. He's got a lot of cash to poor into slick campaign materials, is that it? Edited July 10, 2022 by Davkaus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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