Popular Post markavfc40 Posted June 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2022 Another Tory MP called out on his lies by Lynch. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Straggler Posted June 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2022 For people struggling to understand why the rail staff have to strike, just imagine having to negotiate with people who will trot out transparent and blatant lies to your face. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Just now, Straggler said: For people struggling to understand why the rail staff have to strike, just imagine having to negotiate with people who will trot out transparent and blatant lies to your face. Oh I don't know, faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary I feel that strikes shouldn't be an inconvenience and hopefully the idea of potential inconvenience would do the job instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Straggler said: For people struggling to understand why the rail staff have to strike, just imagine having to negotiate with people who will trot out transparent and blatant lies to your face. They wish the government would trot out lies to their face. Instead they hide, refuse to get involved, and air transparent and blatant lies in the press. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) As shit as this all is for many people, the values that many of us hold dear, like equality, came from strikes and protests. The powers that be have not only always tried to f##k us up the arse, they want to go in dry. If people hadn’t stood up to it over the years we’d be living in a very different, and less pleasant world. If I have to suffer for a few days so people get treated fairly, so be it. Edited June 21, 2022 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 FYI, no point nurses going on strike as the shifts just get filled by bank/agency staff so there’s no disruption to services rendering the whole thing pointless in the first place. We will always have shit pay and we are at the mercy of ‘independent panels’ made up of stooges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I guess that if you deliberately pour petrol on a volatile situation just so that you can create a political narrative of "blame" and you're the ones in charge, then you run the risk of people actually thinking it's your fault. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Cold War Steve nails it again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Ingram85 said: FYI, no point nurses going on strike as the shifts just get filled by bank/agency staff so there’s no disruption to services rendering the whole thing pointless in the first place. We will always have shit pay and we are at the mercy of ‘independent panels’ made up of stooges. We have issues with bank nurses at our trust, its a massive problem attracting not just good nurses, but nurses period we are finding. Most of ours are coming from abroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We have issues with bank nurses at our trust, its a massive problem attracting not just good nurses, but nurses period we are finding. Most of ours are coming from abroad Because we sent half of them home after Brexit, a quarter of what’s left have left as it’s crap, have left for other pastures or retired and the rest of us Band 6 and below are just left dazed and bewildered after the last few years and watching as we slowly slide toward needing foodbanks and hoping the cost of living doesn’t completely destroy what’s left of our sanity. Fully knowing the harm to people it would potentially cause I would still 100% strike tomorrow if it meant seriously disrupting the health services and getting us all better pay but striking staff will be covered by agency staff thus rendering the strike pointless in the first place. A sad state of affairs. 100% of the blame to the Gov’t and anyone, ANYONE, who voted for them. It’s all on Tory voters heads and I hope you all get what you deserve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Because we sent half of them home after Brexit, a quarter of what’s left have left as it’s crap, have left for other pastures or retired and the rest of us Band 6 and below are just left dazed and bewildered after the last few years and watching as we slowly slide toward needing foodbanks and hoping the cost of living doesn’t completely destroy what’s left of our sanity. Fully knowing the harm to people it would potentially cause I would still 100% strike tomorrow if it meant seriously disrupting the health services and getting us all better pay but striking staff will be covered by agency staff thus rendering the strike pointless in the first place. A sad state of affairs. 100% of the blame to the Gov’t and anyone, ANYONE, who voted for them. It’s all on Tory voters heads and I hope you all get what you deserve. Its scary mate. We have had some come that have as much nursing experience as me. Consultants kicking a stink and refusing to do clinics with them again. Last paragraph i agree with the Conservatives have destroyed the nhs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 My missus is a nurse, her best friends are nurses, they’ve been in the profession for nearly 20 years, I’ve heard first hand what has happened since 2010. It’s shocking and awful. Most of them - her and her friends, are looking for a way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 They shouldn’t leave, and they shouldn’t earn any more money. Both of those things would inconvenience me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted June 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Last paragraph i agree with the Conservatives have destroyed the nhs They've done it in full view as well constantly chipping away at it. These bastards have destroyed and continue to destroy anything good about this country all whilst creating division and distraction as they got people to look away as they said ooh look back over there at that note Labour left us saying there is no money, look up at your benefit claiming neighbour next door twitching his curtains before going back to bed whilst you trot out to work, look at that foreign (brown) person coming over here stealing your job, using your NHS and public services, look at that public sector worker over there and his flashy, shiny pension, look at that railway worker earning 25k a year (we'll say 60k and the gullible will swallow it) pleading poverty whilst disrupting your day. The biggest shame in all this though is that despite 12 years of this shit show, destruction of public services, the massive increase in people living in poverty, the lack of growth, the biggest drop in living standards on record, making the country the most divided it has been in living memory, the biggest shame is that people in this country will still vote for them. Makes my blood boil. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2022 I think I’m developing a most unlikely man crush… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, choffer said: I think I’m developing a most unlikely man crush He has been a breath of fresh air. Calm and composed always putting his point across well and calling out the lies for what they are. Total contrast to the politicians they keep dredging up to go against him. When you're telling the truth though and have knowledge and facts to back that up then it will come easy. I'd imagine he has swayed a few people and got them on side of the workers he represents. Edited June 21, 2022 by markavfc40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Its scary mate. We have had some come that have as much nursing experience as me. Consultants kicking a stink and refusing to do clinics with them again. Last paragraph i agree with the Conservatives have destroyed the nhs When you want to privatise something the first step is to undermine it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Someone who's swallowed the buzz words (and plenty more no doubt), Vs a cohesive understanding of the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, choffer said: I think I’m developing a most unlikely man crush… I love that last line, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, StanBalaban said: Someone who's swallowed the buzz words (and plenty more no doubt), Vs a cohesive understanding of the situation. My word. This video says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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