SikhInTrinity Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Like I said before, I don't think the competition needs to be an amazing keeper. The message has already been sent that if he underperforms, even for one game, he's dropped. As long as the back up is competent and capable of taking his place, then the threat of being dropped is always there. Bunn is good enough. Though you said in a previous post that he is nowhere near Guzan's level? If Guzan remains he knows he will be No1 without any pressure in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Like I said before, I don't think the competition needs to be an amazing keeper. The message has already been sent that if he underperforms, even for one game, he's dropped. As long as the back up is competent and capable of taking his place, then the threat of being dropped is always there. Bunn is good enough. Though you said in a previous post that he is nowhere near Guzan's level? If Guzan remains he knows he will be No1 without any pressure in the world. You keep either ignoring my posts or not reading them properly. He's not as good as Guzan. I did say that before (I don't think I used the phrase that he was nowhere near Guzan's level) and nothing above contradicts that. What I said above is he is good enough to cover the position in the event that Guzan is dropped again (or injured for that matter). Guzan already knows he will be dropped if he underperforms. All we need is a goalkeeper good enough to play in that event and that possibility remains, so the pressure is there for Guzan. Edited July 10, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Bunn has been a designated #2 for the last seven years (bar one loan spell). He puts absolutely no pressure on Guzan whatsoever. However this signing doesn't rule out the possibility of us still replacing Guzan also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2015 Sherwood's willingness to drop Guzan is where the pressure comes from. It doesn't matter who the backup is (within reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 i just noticed he's only played 23 times in the last three years, pretty hard to make judgement if he'd good enough back up or not based on that. Really hope Guzan or his replacement can stay fit next season. Maybe Steer's going to be no.2 and this guy the third choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 i just noticed he's only played 23 times in the last three years, pretty hard to make judgement if he'd good enough back up or not based on that. Really hope Guzan or his replacement can stay fit next season. Maybe Steer's going to be no.2 and this guy the third choice. I think it makes it pretty easy to make judgement. We're a premiership team that seemingly wants to improve. Signing gk who can't get a game for teams in lower divisions won't improve us. First choice gk in lower divisions should be the least we aim for with regards our back ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 That sounds about right, but if you've got no money what you gonna do? He might not even be second choice though. One good thing you can say is that Norwich fans seem to reckon he did a good job one time when he came in for Ruddy. Barring a bad injury to Guzan, it's not the end of the world though I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I wasn't aiming any sort of slant on Bunn above by the way, if that is how it read. He sounds like he'll be a capable back-up player. More that is all he'll be and everyone knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 i just noticed he's only played 23 times in the last three years, pretty hard to make judgement if he'd good enough back up or not based on that. Really hope Guzan or his replacement can stay fit next season. Maybe Steer's going to be no.2 and this guy the third choice. I think it makes it pretty easy to make judgement. We're a premiership team that seemingly wants to improve. Signing gk who can't get a game for teams in lower divisions won't improve us. First choice gk in lower divisions should be the least we aim for with regards our back ups. A first choice goalkeeper would very clearly require a transfer fee, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 i just noticed he's only played 23 times in the last three years, pretty hard to make judgement if he'd good enough back up or not based on that. Really hope Guzan or his replacement can stay fit next season. Maybe Steer's going to be no.2 and this guy the third choice. I think it makes it pretty easy to make judgement. We're a premiership team that seemingly wants to improve. Signing gk who can't get a game for teams in lower divisions won't improve us. First choice gk in lower divisions should be the least we aim for with regards our back ups. A first choice goalkeeper would very clearly require a transfer fee, no? Not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Chelsea had terrible back up keepers for years. Liverpool still have bogdan. Even the top teams don't regard back up keeper as a need of quality. Being negative about a back up keeper stinks of being negative for the sake of it. Being positive about a back up keeper stinks of being positive for the sake of it. Be a pretty boring place it we also said: Welcome mark. Will provide good backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 We're trying to save money. Bunn was clearly brought in because he's the cheapest possible option who doesn't wear clown shoes. I personally think we may still be in for a first choice goalkeeper, but whether we are or not, the signing of Mark Bunn isn't meant to 'put pressure on Guzan', it's meant to provide depth in case of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Chelsea had terrible back up keepers for years. Liverpool still have bogdan. Even the top teams don't regard back up keeper as a need of quality. Being negative about a back up keeper stinks of being negative for the sake of it. Being positive about a back up keeper stinks of being positive for the sake of it. Be a pretty boring place it we also said: Welcome mark. Will provide good backup. Yeah, what a ridiculous comment that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Chelsea had terrible back up keepers for years. Liverpool still have bogdan. Even the top teams don't regard back up keeper as a need of quality. Being negative about a back up keeper stinks of being negative for the sake of it. Being positive about a back up keeper stinks of being positive for the sake of it. Be a pretty boring place it we also said: Welcome mark. Will provide good backup. This is where you're totally wrong. Nobody is saying its a fantastic signing or anything positive like that. It seems that unless you're moaning then you're being positive for the sake of it. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Chelsea had terrible back up keepers for years. Liverpool still have bogdan. Even the top teams don't regard back up keeper as a need of quality. Being negative about a back up keeper stinks of being negative for the sake of it.Being positive about a back up keeper stinks of being positive for the sake of it. Be a pretty boring place it we also said: Welcome mark. Will provide good backup. This is where you're totally wrong. Nobody is saying its a fantastic signing or anything positive like that. It seems that unless you're moaning then you're being positive for the sake of it. Ok. Where have a said people are saying it's a fantastic signing? I really don't see your issue with people being underwhelmed by this signing. For me it says an awful lot about the direction were heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 StefanAVFC - can I just point out that my posts aren't an indication that I'm rocking in a corner with a gun to my head. Perhaps they read like that, I don't know. But they're not. If I post that I think we've signed a shit gk it's because I think we've signed a shit gk. I put forward my reasons for that but I'm by no means crying about it. In fact outside of villatalk I really couldn't give a damn. Villatalk encourages me to put my opinion forward - that's about it. Similarly with delph - I post that I don't truly believe he is loyal because I simply don't believe he's loyal like he made out. Again I put my reasons forward because it's a forum. But I'm in no means drowning in self pity or negativity about it. Barring the fact wel lose a good player, I genuinely won't give a shit. It's happened before, Itl happen again. Apologies for going off topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Welcome Mark Bunn. Meh. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Who and why? The next Andy Marshall of 'Villa keepers who never had a first team game' quiz question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Who and why? The next Andy Marshall of 'Villa keepers who never had a first team game' quiz question. The why is because we are saving about 30-40k a week off the wage bill with Bunn sat on the bench instead of Given. I just hope those resources are used elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I've had time to reflect on this signing. Initially I didn't understand it, but I was wrong. I'm now convinced Bunn will be a Villa superstar and our number one. He'll be one of the best keepers in the division and Guzan will leave too as we won't need him with Steer as backup instead. He also will fit perfectly within our wage structure. Yep. Perfect for the league we'll be in 16/17 season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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